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How to avoid scam!!!!
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To be honest with you guys, is that dont ever use b2b websites, unless someone recommends a reliable supplier. i cant say sorry for the dissapointment, as because i was scammed myself. for those people who are new to this business always and i mean always read the forums before doing trade, it is worth your time. And guys scammers are really smart, they can use words to deceive you by sucking up to you (avoid these guys) usually they will use phsycological method like providing warranties, refund etc all those are ****. and if you want to do business always buy their cheapest sample, don't buy laptop, iphones, nokia n95 8gb etc. try not to get suck in when they flash you with goodies, that is part of their game.

i know alot of you try to make money to support your family, well same goes with me, but just to remind you guys business is a cruel game, there is no easy way out. You either do your homework or learn through a broken heart because of your money saying good bye to you. i learnt the hard way as you all know, but mind you, some experienced people also go through that problem.

eventhough a supplier is from places like UK, USA etc. dont put full trust like that, do it like u treat with the chinese scammers. all scammers think alike , race have nothing to do with trade. I myself am Chinese, but i got ripped off by chinese supplier, and funny thing is my ancestors came from the same province as the scammer. so wat i am saying is no one is safe, dont trust anyone untill homework is done, even that u will only have 80% trust, as some of these guys can lie about identification.

best way to do business in china is, first start ot business by buying from local whosalers and make your way up, save up come to china get a reliable agent, find a authentic factory, and business will begin. but beware of some of the guys who wants u to spend ur money on some **** party, refuse if u have to. better yet go to a business convention in china, that is probably the best way. i hope you guys would agree with me.

21 Apr 2008 04:00
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Quoting from [echa106]:

To be honest with you guys, is that dont ever use b2b websites, unless someone recommends a reliable supplier. i cant say sorry for the dissapointment, as because i was scammed myself. for those people who are new to this business always and i mean always read the forums before doing trade, it is worth your time. And guys scammers are really smart, they can use words to deceive you by sucking up to you (avoid these guys) usually they will use phsycological method like providing warranties, refund etc all those are . and if you want to do business always buy their cheapest sample, don't buy laptop, iphones, nokia n95 8gb etc. try not to get suck in when they flash you with goodies, that is part of their game.

i know alot of you try to make money to support your family, well same goes with me, but just to remind you guys business is a cruel game, there is no easy way out. You either do your homework or learn through a broken heart because of your money saying good bye to you. i learnt the hard way as you all know, but mind you, some experienced people also go through that problem.

eventhough a supplier is from places like UK, USA etc. dont put full trust like that, do it like u treat with the chinese scammers. all scammers think alike , race have nothing to do with trade. I myself am Chinese, but i got ripped off by  chinese supplier, and funny thing is my ancestors came from the same province as the scammer. so wat i am saying is no one is safe, dont trust anyone untill homework is done, even that u will only have 80% trust, as some of these guys can lie about identification.

best way to do business in china is, first start ot business by buying from local whosalers and make your way up, save up come to china get a reliable agent, find a authentic factory, and business will begin. but beware of some of the guys who wants u to spend ur money on some party, refuse if u have to. better yet go to a business convention in china, that is probably the best way. i hope you guys would agree with me.



Great article I will be putting this knowledge to use, Thank you
02 May 2008 18:02
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Quoting from [horton5405]:

Quoting from [echa106]:

To be honest with you guys, is that dont ever use b2b websites, unless someone recommends a reliable supplier. i cant say sorry for the dissapointment, as because i was scammed myself. for those people who are new to this business always and i mean always read the forums before doing trade, it is worth your time. And guys scammers are really smart, they can use words to deceive you by sucking up to you (avoid these guys) usually they will use phsycological method like providing warranties, refund etc all those are . and if you want to do business always buy their cheapest sample, don't buy laptop, iphones, nokia n95 8gb etc. try not to get suck in when they flash you with goodies, that is part of their game.

i know alot of you try to make money to support your family, well same goes with me, but just to remind you guys business is a cruel game, there is no easy way out. You either do your homework or learn through a broken heart because of your money saying good bye to you. i learnt the hard way as you all know, but mind you, some experienced people also go through that problem.

eventhough a supplier is from places like UK, USA etc. dont put full trust like that, do it like u treat with the chinese scammers. all scammers think alike , race have nothing to do with trade. I myself am Chinese, but i got ripped off by chinese supplier, and funny thing is my ancestors came from the same province as the scammer. so wat i am saying is no one is safe, dont trust anyone untill homework is done, even that u will only have 80% trust, as some of these guys can lie about identification.

best way to do business in china is, first start ot business by buying from local whosalers and make your way up, save up come to china get a reliable agent, find a authentic factory, and business will begin. but beware of some of the guys who wants u to spend ur money on some party, refuse if u have to. better yet go to a business convention in china, that is probably the best way. i hope you guys would agree with me.




Great article I will be putting this knowledge to use, Thank you
no problem mate, I am actually glad i learnt my mistake, could be worse if i didnt experience it. although internet is the best tools for doing business, but the risk is alot higher. it is better to do the good old fashion way and that is traveling and meeting face to face like true man. if they are scammers just smack them across the face [em2].
03 May 2008 03:14
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Quoting from [echa106]:

Quoting from [horton5405]:

Quoting from [echa106]:

To be honest with you guys, is that dont ever use b2b websites, unless someone recommends a reliable supplier. i cant say sorry for the dissapointment, as because i was scammed myself. for those people who are new to this business always and i mean always read the forums before doing trade, it is worth your time. And guys scammers are really smart, they can use words to deceive you by sucking up to you (avoid these guys) usually they will use phsycological method like providing warranties, refund etc all those are . and if you want to do business always buy their cheapest sample, don't buy laptop, iphones, nokia n95 8gb etc. try not to get suck in when they flash you with goodies, that is part of their game.

i know alot of you try to make money to support your family, well same goes with me, but just to remind you guys business is a cruel game, there is no easy way out. You either do your homework or learn through a broken heart because of your money saying good bye to you. i learnt the hard way as you all know, but mind you, some experienced people also go through that problem.

eventhough a supplier is from places like UK, USA etc. dont put full trust like that, do it like u treat with the chinese scammers. all scammers think alike , race have nothing to do with trade. I myself am Chinese, but i got ripped off by chinese supplier, and funny thing is my ancestors came from the same province as the scammer. so wat i am saying is no one is safe, dont trust anyone untill homework is done, even that u will only have 80% trust, as some of these guys can lie about identification.

best way to do business in china is, first start ot business by buying from local whosalers and make your way up, save up come to china get a reliable agent, find a authentic factory, and business will begin. but beware of some of the guys who wants u to spend ur money on some party, refuse if u have to. better yet go to a business convention in china, that is probably the best way. i hope you guys would agree with me.




Great article I will be putting this knowledge to use, Thank you
no problem mate, I am actually glad i learnt my mistake, could be worse if i didnt experience it. although internet is the best tools for doing business, but the risk is alot higher. it is better to do the good old fashion way and that is traveling and meeting face to face like true man. if they are scammers just smack them across the face [em2].




Realy good article not only good but also very truthful. I was cammed and I offer the N95 and Ipod but they give me not the goods but the full . So this article is very good, and you are all say right things about the scammers they must be *. You right this is a good experience, another people lose much more money when they order the containers and they scamms.
06 Jul 2008 11:17
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Quoting from [echa106]:

To be honest with you guys, is that dont ever use b2b websites, unless someone recommends a reliable supplier. i cant say sorry for the dissapointment, as because i was scammed myself. for those people who are new to this business always and i mean always read the forums before doing trade, it is worth your time. And guys scammers are really smart, they can use words to deceive you by sucking up to you (avoid these guys) usually they will use phsycological method like providing warranties, refund etc all those are . and if you want to do business always buy their cheapest sample, don't buy laptop, iphones, nokia n95 8gb etc. try not to get suck in when they flash you with goodies, that is part of their game.

i know alot of you try to make money to support your family, well same goes with me, but just to remind you guys business is a cruel game, there is no easy way out. You either do your homework or learn through a broken heart because of your money saying good bye to you. i learnt the hard way as you all know, but mind you, some experienced people also go through that problem.

eventhough a supplier is from places like UK, USA etc. dont put full trust like that, do it like u treat with the chinese scammers. all scammers think alike , race have nothing to do with trade. I myself am Chinese, but i got ripped off by  chinese supplier, and funny thing is my ancestors came from the same province as the scammer. so wat i am saying is no one is safe, dont trust anyone untill homework is done, even that u will only have 80% trust, as some of these guys can lie about identification.

best way to do business in china is, first start ot business by buying from local whosalers and make your way up, save up come to china get a reliable agent, find a authentic factory, and business will begin. but beware of some of the guys who wants u to spend ur money on some party, refuse if u have to. better yet go to a business convention in china, that is probably the best way. i hope you guys would agree with me.



yes, you're right and very trueth article. i think you're very good at business esp. business in china.

Trust-office in china

06 Jul 2008 18:57
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Quoting from [echa106]:

To be honest with you guys, is that dont ever use b2b websites, unless someone recommends a reliable supplier. i cant say sorry for the dissapointment, as because i was scammed myself. for those people who are new to this business always and i mean always read the forums before doing trade, it is worth your time. And guys scammers are really smart, they can use words to deceive you by sucking up to you (avoid these guys) usually they will use phsycological method like providing warranties, refund etc all those are . and if you want to do business always buy their cheapest sample, don't buy laptop, iphones, nokia n95 8gb etc. try not to get suck in when they flash you with goodies, that is part of their game.

i know alot of you try to make money to support your family, well same goes with me, but just to remind you guys business is a cruel game, there is no easy way out. You either do your homework or learn through a broken heart because of your money saying good bye to you. i learnt the hard way as you all know, but mind you, some experienced people also go through that problem.

eventhough a supplier is from places like UK, USA etc. dont put full trust like that, do it like u treat with the chinese scammers. all scammers think alike , race have nothing to do with trade. I myself am Chinese, but i got ripped off by  chinese supplier, and funny thing is my ancestors came from the same province as the scammer. so wat i am saying is no one is safe, dont trust anyone untill homework is done, even that u will only have 80% trust, as some of these guys can lie about identification.

best way to do business in china is, first start ot business by buying from local whosalers and make your way up, save up come to china get a reliable agent, find a authentic factory, and business will begin. but beware of some of the guys who wants u to spend ur money on some party, refuse if u have to. better yet go to a business convention in china, that is probably the best way. i hope you guys would agree with me.

 

Do you know of any legite electronic suppliers that carry brand names for low prices?

12 Jul 2008 05:06
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Quoting from [bigs930]:

Quoting from [echa106]:

To be honest with you guys, is that dont ever use b2b websites, unless someone recommends a reliable supplier. i cant say sorry for the dissapointment, as because i was scammed myself. for those people who are new to this business always and i mean always read the forums before doing trade, it is worth your time. And guys scammers are really smart, they can use words to deceive you by sucking up to you (avoid these guys) usually they will use phsycological method like providing warranties, refund etc all those are . and if you want to do business always buy their cheapest sample, don't buy laptop, iphones, nokia n95 8gb etc. try not to get suck in when they flash you with goodies, that is part of their game.

i know alot of you try to make money to support your family, well same goes with me, but just to remind you guys business is a cruel game, there is no easy way out. You either do your homework or learn through a broken heart because of your money saying good bye to you. i learnt the hard way as you all know, but mind you, some experienced people also go through that problem.

eventhough a supplier is from places like UK, USA etc. dont put full trust like that, do it like u treat with the chinese scammers. all scammers think alike , race have nothing to do with trade. I myself am Chinese, but i got ripped off by  chinese supplier, and funny thing is my ancestors came from the same province as the scammer. so wat i am saying is no one is safe, dont trust anyone untill homework is done, even that u will only have 80% trust, as some of these guys can lie about identification.

best way to do business in china is, first start ot business by buying from local whosalers and make your way up, save up come to china get a reliable agent, find a authentic factory, and business will begin. but beware of some of the guys who wants u to spend ur money on some party, refuse if u have to. better yet go to a business convention in china, that is probably the best way. i hope you guys would agree with me.

 

Do you know of any legite electronic suppliers that carry brand names for low prices?

mate, the only time you can purchase top brands electronics is when they are sold in black markets, which means they are stolen by workers, who goes behind their boss's back. I know for the fact that it is possible to get it slightly cheaper, but due to shipping frieghts, custom fees, import fees, and taxation. It will cost more than your local supplier, selling the same products. don't want to sound harsh or any thing, dont even bother looking online, scammers are increasing in numbers and soon will over flood all the good suppliers. you know is better for you to start your own brand. go to China and find a reliable supplier and apply your own brand. my advice is think outside the box dont think what sony's way of thinking (it will never work if you copy them), think what the publics wants and from there on expand your business, this will generate more profit than selling other branded stuff, dont forget they were in the same position as us before, but look at them now. not only generating profit, but also a gain in high achievement and pride. hope that helps. cheers
13 Jul 2008 03:39
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Quoting from [echa106]:

To be honest with you guys, is that dont ever use b2b websites, unless someone recommends a reliable supplier. i cant say sorry for the dissapointment, as because i was scammed myself. for those people who are new to this business always and i mean always read the forums before doing trade, it is worth your time. And guys scammers are really smart, they can use words to deceive you by sucking up to you (avoid these guys) usually they will use phsycological method like providing warranties, refund etc all those are . and if you want to do business always buy their cheapest sample, don't buy laptop, iphones, nokia n95 8gb etc. try not to get suck in when they flash you with goodies, that is part of their game.

i know alot of you try to make money to support your family, well same goes with me, but just to remind you guys business is a cruel game, there is no easy way out. You either do your homework or learn through a broken heart because of your money saying good bye to you. i learnt the hard way as you all know, but mind you, some experienced people also go through that problem.

eventhough a supplier is from places like UK, USA etc. dont put full trust like that, do it like u treat with the chinese scammers. all scammers think alike , race have nothing to do with trade. I myself am Chinese, but i got ripped off by  chinese supplier, and funny thing is my ancestors came from the same province as the scammer. so wat i am saying is no one is safe, dont trust anyone untill homework is done, even that u will only have 80% trust, as some of these guys can lie about identification.

best way to do business in china is, first start ot business by buying from local whosalers and make your way up, save up come to china get a reliable agent, find a authentic factory, and business will begin. but beware of some of the guys who wants u to spend ur money on some party, refuse if u have to. better yet go to a business convention in china, that is probably the best way. i hope you guys would agree with me.



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25 Sep 2008 03:42
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Hi........what to say..ia mreally dissapointed...I want to buy some spy systems,sungl and dresses. Can u reccomend to me some real and good companies? I can not come right now in china ,but i will....Now i need to make some orders and i am relly affraid.........i dont know...can u help me?I never buyed here...THank u,Daniela![em4]

14 Mar 2009 18:49
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Hi!I am a new member here in Alibaba and i find it the best site i thing for buying,,,everything!!!So as a newbie maybe i have done a big mistake...and lost 400usd....I was talking with a seller for buying a laptop and i was talking almost every day!!!!!So i decided to buy one to see if it is good!So i did it...And now i have lost contact from the seller and nobody answers to my mails...What can i do????I have paid by western union....Before we lost our...connection she told me that she sent it and was waiting for her manager to tell me the tracking number....
the seller has e-mail super-trade818@hotmail.com and he also sent me a site of his company http://www.super-trade.net.cn/ Now i am so desperate that i don't know what to do!!
Also at the invoice she sent me it has some additional information...
Company name: anhui freetime. trading co.ld
Address: wangjiang road 225#,anhui province

western union payment :

first name : ruijing last name : wang

nanjing city ,anhui province ,china

post code:230012
Seller: sane
17 Mar 2009 15:39
Post 11 of 23
I think in china even all over the word ,there is scammer.i think when u buy thing in a very low price ,I dont think it is a good things .I am sure most of us is trust .because we want to do business for long time
18 Mar 2009 00:39
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