How can anyone trust or use a site that helps and promotes SCAMMING. Does Alibaba owners not know of this problem, why isn't anything being done by them to even minimise or protect buyers from them. Do they not know what to do except to just keep this site running. We are talking about peoples hard earned money and emotions at stake here.
Even Genuine Sellers are losing out as the chance of being a SCAMMER will be assumed before any transactions are made or if made at all. The full pontential of a Seller cannot be used.
Can Alibaba learn from trading sites like eBay. Why not introduce a complusory Escrow service for sellers as the buyers pay the fees for there security anyways.
Even though SCAMMERS are caught out and listed, they have nothing to worry about because they can easily create a new account with another fake company and contiune SCAMMING. Anyone can do this..... Is it better to just be SCAMMER on this site than to be a genuine buyer or seller ?????
Whoever is running ALIBABA, please take note and responsibility of the feedbacks in this forum and address the problems... you should know better.
Quoting from [Lima Lima]:
P.S
You can't even spell you're name.... William ???
Can spell my name Mr.Mich ! It's Wilhelm !
But you should spell not FORIGNE CARS in your About us and lead times will not very, they will vary !
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And of course, as a retired businessman I could/would not compare my Bank balance with an Scrap trader from the island of happyness, rain, fog and fish and chip's !
I assume, your not registered Ltd., is the scrap place with registered but not published website on the other side of the Ricoh Arena !
So far from me, the poor man from a poor but proud country !
Wilhelm
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to Germex:
Uwe, Alzheimer ?
Wilawut is my son, and since I am retired the boss, you never read something from him, look in the Alibaba contact details, I am the contact person !
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Quoting from [wilhelm]:Quoting from [Lima Lima]:
P.S
You can't even spell you're name.... William ???
Can spell my name Mr.Mich ! It's Wilhelm !
But you should spell not FORIGNE CARS in your About us and lead times will not very, they will vary !
And of course, as a retired businessman I could/would not compare my Bank balance with an Scrap trader from the island of happyness, rain, fog and fish and chip's !
I assume, your not registered Ltd., is the scrap place with registered but not published website on the other side of the Ricoh Arena !
So far from me, the poor man from a poor but proud country !
Wilhelm
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to Germex:
Uwe, Alzheimer ?
Wilawut is my son, and since I am retired the boss, you never read something from him, look in the Alibaba contact details, I am the contact person !
Wow, take it easy.. You do too much research just to get back at people.
By the way, your first post was kind of mean to the "beginner". I'm a "newbie" too, but that doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to express myself on the forum and I think that he got a point about alibaba not emphazising enough on the scammer-issue.
I really don't see why a feedback system, they use on ebay, wouldn't work here?
Quoting from [Gordon Gekko]:I really don't see why a feedback system, they use on ebay, wouldn't work here?
If you can explain how to install such a system, or anyone else, please do it !
Without having insight in businesses between two parties, like Ebay it has, it is impossible !
Thousands of brains have smoked about such a system, but no result !
Wilhelm
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Quoting from [dillion]:
As I see in your earlier postings you are new and unexperienced in this business !
So I would suggest before you do any business, go and learn how it works !
You can not ask the operator of a swimming hall to reduce the water in the pool, because "you" and some others can not swim, you have to go to the not swimmer area and learn how to swim by instructions of a helper and than come back !
The not swimmer area here on Alibaba are the reseources and the forums, read read read and read, than come back with the knowledge what is possible and what not !
Rome is also not built in one day, they work until today !
Wilhelm
Quoting from [dillion]:ALIBABA FULL OF SCAMMERS , SCAMMERS , SCAMMERS !!How can anyone trust or use a site that helps and promotes SCAMMING. Does Alibaba owners not know of this problem, why isn't anything being done by them to even minimise or protect buyers from them. Do they not know what to do except to just keep this site running. We are talking about peoples hard earned money and emotions at stake here.
Even Genuine Sellers are losing out as the chance of being a SCAMMER will be assumed before any transactions are made or if made at all. The full pontential of a Seller cannot be used.
Can Alibaba learn from trading sites like eBay. Why not introduce a complusory Escrow service for sellers as the buyers pay the fees for there security anyways.
Even though SCAMMERS are caught out and listed, they have nothing to worry about because they can easily create a new account with another fake company and contiune SCAMMING. Anyone can do this..... Is it better to just be SCAMMER on this site than to be a genuine buyer or seller ?????
Whoever is running ALIBABA, please take note and responsibility of the feedbacks in this forum and address the problems... you should know better.
well you say they (alibaba) do nothing they pulled the plug on my scammer, rather quickly too. i am grateful. i lost money but BCA wasnt much help either i reported before transfer was complete and nothing they could do?....
Quoting from [Lima Lima]:
wilhelm,
You're comments are pathetic there is nothing wrong with what the guy is asking, it's uneducated people like you in 3rd world countries who make this world a worse place, I am probably right in saying you are a poor business man in a poor country, they always come in 2's. You seem to think you are some sort of smart guy, let me tell you when you're bank balance is big as mine then you can say something until, then my friend, shut it ! and get back to cleaning up the street !
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU !!!
Quoting from [dillion]:ALIBABA FULL OF SCAMMERS , SCAMMERS , SCAMMERS !!........
I agree with dillion. Many scammers company are even reporting they are "ALIBABA GOLD SUPPLIER" . ALIBABA does not even care.
I have decided that never again I will do any business with a company whose reference is ALIBABA
Quoting from [Davix]:Quoting from [dillion]:ALIBABA FULL OF SCAMMERS , SCAMMERS , SCAMMERS !!........
I agree with dillion. Many scammers company are even reporting they are "ALIBABA GOLD SUPPLIER" . ALIBABA does not even care.I have decided that never again I will do any business with a company whose reference is ALIBABA
Hi , im new here too, and i see many gold companies reported as scammers and still registered here, i think alibaba dont do the needed efforts to stop that , and i think 90% of the supplies here are scammer and may be 100%, who knows, by the way alibaba means thief in romanian, so u understand the point? . im really shocked about the chinese people, as i see here most of them are cheaters !!!, they like cheating people as a job , and if anyone think that there is a real suppliers here not scammers prove it to me, give me names of serious mp4 suppliers .
I think the bottom line is, we can't expect Alibaba to know people at the time they become members, but they should be more informed and flexible, and be able to react swiftly whenever a scammer is detected.
That of course leaves everyone of us with the "obligation" to always practice "due diligence".
Thanks for the great feedbacks !!
Heres another SCAMMER ALERT:
Contact Name: Nestor Grant Company Name:Millennium Communication Co., Ltd. ALIBABA Location: ( United States ).
After further communication with this supplier, found it very suspicious and extremely shady. Required payment by Western Union ( the forbidden word for Newbies like myself ), to the following
Name: Samuel Harvey Location: United Kingdom then to
Name: Randy Ove Location: Nigeria
If you search Randy Ove in the forums, you will find that name appears as part of another company name in Thailand ( BLUERIVERS ). I would encourage all Newbies (like myself) to use the FORUM SEARCH and to all forum users to clearly state SCAMMERS to make it SEARCH friendly.
If i am wrong, and anyone has had good dealing with this company, then please tell us your reasons. If i am correct, then thats another one of ALIBABA's FORTY THEIVES..
Happy Trading!!