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Quoting from[london_girl]:

Quoting from[test32]:




WHO DOES NOT AGREE WITH ME PLEASE READ EVERY DAY ALIBABA.COM



HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LOSING MONEY. PLEASE GO AND READ........



YEAH YOU WANT TO MEET FRAUD OR SCAMMER GO AHEAD AND SEND MONEY BY TT.....




'' DO NEVER SEND MONEY TO CHINA BY TT''




GOOD LUCK

I always thought that if you paid by TT you have a chance through your bank of getting your money back if you have been scammed. Im really puzzled by this.

I know WU or moneybank is out of the question, but TT. Thats news to me

hello guys im looking to buy a bicycle from indonesia but i couldn't trust anyone yet because they only accept tt or western union or if they do acept d/p they didn't give me the  name of their beneficiary. which is not good ,second none of them is verified you think it is a problem to deal with a non verified member . have any of you guys dealt with someone from indonesia to buy a bike please respond me im scared to try im doubting everyone at this peoint

I would definatley do your research on the company/person you are ordering from. Unfortunatly Indonesia has a very bad reputation on here for scamming people

Hello,

We jusk call our Turkish Embassy and ask them search the buyer's informations instead of us. This is more secure than the other ways according to me. At least in 2 days we get a response from the commercial department of our embassy. I advice you all to use this way.

Best regards.

Necati ISEL

Quoting from [Rhaziq]:

Quoting from [westspectrumtrade]:



In my opinion, this is why we build trusting business relationships via these online sites. If you can find trusted business partners that have used sources in China and other overseas manufacturers then you can work on a referral basis with someone who has already been used and can be trusted.




I have two very strong companies that I have worked with for the past few months who have consistently delivered quality goods and great service. They are also both available online during business hours and sometimes even after hours. It took some missteps to find these sources and I had my share of bad quality and non functional product before settling with these two trusted sources.




Please feel free to message me on TradeManager for more information on my resources as I am not sure I can mention company names in posts. (us101621933)




As an additional note, I sent payment to 5 different sources via TT and got all of my product. I took the time to call and talk to each contact and company prior to odering (and throwing out any that did not have working phone numbers or could not be reached) before narrowing it down to the 5 suppliers that I sent payments to and then down to the two who turned out to be the best.




Good luck and let me know if you want my supplier names!




Sincerely,




Angela




West Spectrum Trade

Hi Angela, I have been in vain searching for trusted suppliers. Please share with me who are your suppliers and for what products are they dealing in.



Please PM me. TQ

Hi Angela

i want the name too, after reading all these forum, there is not many company left to be trust. B2B use to be a trusted website to find trusted company for trading, now is a risky place to lose money.


 

Pls be careful to any business. I think trust, faithfulness, and responsibility is top important in business trade. There are some points here:

1 long term communication;
2 ask for business license of the partner;
3 send email to Chinese International Trade Authority and find related imformation of the partner;
4 ask the third party to check the company;
5 visit the company in person;

Thanks for ur attention.

Hi

I offer now about T/T. How you can make business using T/T and don't lost money.This high experience of my research team.It's well work in many years.

Before sending money by T/T, make sure you ask for the following:

 

In another way, suppose the following situation: (1) you receive an order to a country you have not usual business.(2) The final client will only accept your goods if TT payment after shipment. (3) You trust on your first trial order client and send it. (4) After you prove to your client with BL copy that you sent... than starts the headache... your client starts to recuse the goods... you enter in desperate situation... up to you are obligued to give up to 70% (YES, 70%) discount... unless you search for another client in the destiny country... pay storage taxes at destiny port... maritime freight... etc. THUS, IN THIS SITUATION, i really suggest = your client want to pay only under TT - ask him 20% to 30% TT advanced. If he starts to joke with you... the advanced payment will help you to get the time to sell to another more serious final client.

^{Things are not that you mentioned!!! I like T/T payment for the first time,not L/C payment,you know we usually deliver good by aircraft.If I ask for payment by L/C I can't control the goods,you know airway B/L has no alibity to control the goods.That means if when the customer receive the goods he will not pay money to me...So please don't say persons who ask for payment by T/T for the first time are all scammers......}

HI Igor,

For the first time I usually ask my customer to send money to company account...for the second time usually my customer will send money to my private account to escape taxation.....So not all persons with private account  are all scammers....

I just lost $1750.00 on a boat motor deal in Indonesia they agree to 50% rest when delivered when they got my money they said shipping went up they wanted more money when I told them I'd add increased shipping to final delivery payment  I have not heard from them since...

I will keep e-mail to them every day until they change e-mail address at least they get tired of hitting delete

I e-mail their bank and also got no reply

I am not sure this Alibaba thing is worth it

I want deals I can make money on every loss is proffit out of other deals

THANKS

Big MAC

Hi

Your principles it's not good for every one,becuase if I will come to manufacturer for any order .What will be my deals? I ask you. sir .For travel ,For hotel  how much I need to come in manufacturer.You may be lost thousend of dollars for any orders.  You want to come to see becuase  you don't know tools and need to learn how other people doing business.You think so that seller is trustable or no.,but you need more learn how to use many system and tools  to make deals with suppliers  and also with buyers.These are many tools how check  company trustability .You don't know many secrets.You must know that each suppliers at the same time is buyers too.But plugin with deals this is your destinitions.Thanks

Elohim Team