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Posted on Mar 23, 2008 at 19:41
Website for low-cost housing
Cyber chap created a website where you can see all three papers about low-cost housing. Just go to the link below, click "yes" or "accept", and it will download the document in .doc format.

http://www.geocities.com/builderalib/lch.doc


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Posted on Mar 24, 2008 at 03:28
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Posted on Mar 24, 2008 at 09:51
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Why [em24], Deepsie?

If you are wondering why I don't post it here, it's simply because it's too much text for a post.

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Posted on Jun 05, 2008 at 12:20
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Quoting from [germex]:


Cyber chap created a website where you can see all three papers about low-cost housing. Just go to the link below, click "yes" or "accept", and it will download the document in .doc format.


http://www.geocities.com/builderalib/lch.doc


Let's see what else we can post. Just tell me about what other kind of subjects you would like to read.



Having read the article, and done some research as well about some of the suggestions made, this is exactly the type of cost-cutting methodology that caused so many buildings to collapse in the recent Chinese earthquake.

None of the suggestions hold up in an earthquake zone as your reinforcing, as well as the structural movement required of a larger building of any kind, will be available using those techniques.

I would also hazard that structures built using these methods will not withstand hurricanes/ monsoons etc either, although my science on those is much lesser than my knowledge on earthquakes.

Someone living in Mexico, a nororious earthquake region, should think long and hard before trying to build like this.


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Posted on Jun 05, 2008 at 18:09
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Posted on Jun 06, 2008 at 09:55
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Peter, apparently you are in your "critique" mode again, so I won't go into too much detail. But for the records, the last earthquake here in the north was probably centuries or mileniums ago...


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Posted on Jun 06, 2008 at 10:29
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Quoting from [germex]:

Peter, apparently you are in your "critique" mode again, so I won't go into too much detail. But for the records, the last earthquake here in the north was probably centuries or mileniums ago...



Not sure where you get me saying "north" was. iw as thinking of Mexico City actually...1985... That isn't "centuries" ago in my book.

The 1985 Mexico City earthquake was one of the most devastating earthquakes in the history of the Americas. On Thursday, September 19, 1985, at 7:19 AM local time, Mexico City was struck by an earthquake of magnitude 8.1 [1] on the Richter scale. The epicentre of the earthquake was off the Pacific coast of the Mexican state of Michoacán, a distance of 350 km, in the Cocos Platesubduction zone. It was felt as far away as Los Angeles, California.[1]

As a result of the earthquake, according to official government statistics, over 9,000 people were killed, 30,000 injured, and 100,000 left homeless. 416 buildings were destroyed and over 3,000 seriously damaged.

 The buildings most damaged were from 6-15 stories in height. The extensive damage was due in part to lax enforcement of building codes and the lack of deep foundations in many Mexico city buildings.

 


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Posted on Jun 06, 2008 at 11:22
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Yeah, I remember that earthquake. Few weeks later I had to go to Mexico City and saw the devastation. In fact, on another occasion I was there when they had a minor earthquake, and it almost launched me out of my bed and on the ground. In the last moment I was able to cling on to the mattress. Strange experience!

But here we are roughly 1,000 miles away from that city. The geography is different, the geology, the climate, the culture... everything! Even the language seems to be different sometimes. So we really don't even think in earthquakes.

Subjects like earthquakes, flooding (something else we don't have here) have to be treated separately. When it comes to construction, there is no "one size fits all" solution. So at the very worst I failed to point that out. Though I made it clear that this was just "food for thought" (probably not exactly these words) and that people had to adjust to their local conditions.


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Posted on Jun 07, 2008 at 17:02
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My point exactly Germex.

A rider needs to be added to that document that LOCAL CLIMATIC CONDITIONS NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

Otherwise you are going to have people not realising the downsides of those techniques.

And as an FYI... I will critique any damn post I read where I see a glaring ommission that could cost people lives, whether you get your nose out of joint about it or not.



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Posted on Jun 07, 2008 at 17:30
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Quoting from [Foow]:

My point exactly Germex.

A rider needs to be added to that document that LOCAL CLIMATIC CONDITIONS NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

Otherwise you are going to have people not realising the downsides of those techniques.

And as an FYI... I will critique any damn post I read where I see a glaring ommission that could cost people lives, whether you get your nose out of joint about it or not.




Why didn't you just say that from the beginning...? [em1]

Now I hope cyber chap reads this, because he did me the favor of creating the website, as I am a complete neophyte in this "art".


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Posted on Jun 07, 2008 at 21:38
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Dear Grandpa


I read your reply and at your service. I feel, the low cost construction details are for general understanding. The builders need common sense and local climatic conditions before accepting any idea. Otherwise it will be like adopting a design of an US architect with insulation and wall pipe heating in a tropical country like ours. [em2]


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