Quoting from [francis261]:Quoting from [patos]:Quoting from [my_hyacinth]:Here's an Idea.......................How about listing companies on Alibaba that have actually followed through with what they have sold fake or genuine! There is a lot of disscusion of all businesses on Alibaba being scammers and selling fakes but I know first hand that not all are scammers, I do know that they are fakes however. I have dealt with 4 companies so far and have been satisfied with the shipments, I dont buy electronics from anywhere except one place, they are exactly like the originals without the brand name on them, they are copiies of the original product and I already know that.
If you are buying something from China most likley it will be a fake, you must know this if you look at where the companies that make the genuine prodcts are located..........For Example: a Pittsburgh Penguins Reebok Jersey, The company that makes the real ones is located in Quebec, Canada, but I have purchased a Penguins jersey from a Alibaba Company and I have purchased the same Jersey, same size from the NHL website and I cannot find any diffrence between the 2, however I know that it is a fake because it comes out of China. So i sell it as a replica jersey. But I am well aware of the fact that most stuff out of China is fake and I am sure that you know that too so why complain about being scammed by fakes when it comes out of a place that is world renowned for making beautiful fakes and to say you didnt know is a little bit feeble after all the Discovery channel, A&E Channel and MSNBC reports that are aired all the time about fakes coming out of Asia
Jason
If you are compiling a list of companies that actually perform please post.I would love to know the good guys having recently been defrauded.I would like to think some Chinese merchants are honest.
i agree freind, if you know a place is renowned for fake and replica, then why buy thencomplain about product, thinking you can get very cheap and authentic,dream on, you
want best of both worlds, you cannot have,i have dealt with 3 mainly shoe companys
from putian, paying through western union, and all have delivered, no problem at all,
i know what im buying i would prefer the word replica, rather than fake, incidentally
some of the replica nike af1, airmax, shox, are far more artistic and imaginative than
the brand name holders collection, usually at less than half the price, and i actually
think brand holder, has been very inspired by bright colour and imagination of these
great new designs,by replica desighners, anyway not to stray to far from the point,
yes there most definetely is a massive demand for quality replica nike and all
other goods, people can soon not afford to pay 80~100 dollars, when they can get 40~50 dollars
however the quality will never be as good as the authentic one, so the challenge to
replica producers, concentrate on quality not quantity.
I think it is ironic that I am posting looking for honest suppliers on the report suspicious companies forum on the very website that claims to police these companies.I thought I was doing my due diligence by researching the company on this site,I really thought they operated like Ebay.After Yantai Haixi AKA Yantai Huajan Sports scammed me I found that all I should have done was googled thier website buyyouwant.com as they are known scammers.Anyways if anyone would post companies with an honest reputation I know myself and others would appreciate it.
Quoting from [mems]:
Replying to [Business in China]:Hi
I have order two laptop and two mobile phones from PUTAIN KAISHUN TRAD0NG CO.LTD
And they use EMS China They have not delivery to me yet but will do on monday I will inform you if I get the right product
Regards
Mems
A post to protect buyers from purchasing from fraudulent companies operating as legit companies on Alibaba.
The company Beijing Hualong Changye operating with the website www.biz918.com and under Alibaba as www.bjhl.en.alibaba.com
and using the following email addresses (there are probably a lot more)
hualongtrade05@yahoo.com.cn, bjhlsm@yahoo.cn, lidakf@163.com, zhizun01@msn.com, Zhizuntrade@msn.com
Selling terrible fake goods of major branded companies such as MAC, Clarins, Decker UGG, X box, Gillette, GHD and lots lots more . They email excel spreadsheets full of top class authentic looking goods, express how good they are, and ship out absolute rubbish.
Have you running around in circles, do not refund, have numerous complaints, various paypal accounts they have are frozen.
Bad mouthed staff on messenger using abusive language. The so called boss is never around and always out of office or away for the day - no matter what time or day it is.
Hopefully this post will prevent buyers on Alibaba from losing there hard earned cash.
We really need do something for this to stop Alibaba gives them Gold-membership only because they would pay!
Quoting from [dairen]:Quoting from [mems]:
Replying to [Business in China]:Hi
I have order two laptop and two mobile phones from PUTAIN KAISHUN TRAD0NG CO.LTD
And they use EMS China They have not delivery to me yet but will do on monday I will inform you if I get the right product
Regards
Mems
let me guess... the next time they call you, they will say that EMS does not deliver to your area and will prolong the delivery methods... let me know . i almost got scammed myself.
Quoting from [fer7chu7]:Quoting from[leadesolutions]:I totally agree with you. I've been looking for a true company of electronics, laptops, to re sell in the us and export to costa rica, and I haven't found one yet. I'm doing my research of every single company that contacted me after placing an ad. I got like 40 emails with very "too good to be true" offers, but I know they are scammers. These forums really help. I think we should not only post "THE SCAMMERS" , but we should also post "THE GOOD SELLERS", so people can find them more easily.Quoting from[ukmcolombia]:WHAT IS THE POINT of using a website like ALIBABA as a portal for bussiness when THEY CAN NOT PROTECT YOU FROM SCAMMERS ......
the main reason people use these websites is to find TRUE AND HONEST sellers but even when you report to alibaba such scamms they do nothing about it ,,, is like they part of the scam ....
other websites at least verify their sellers ....ALIBABA SUCKS ,,,,
I find it hilarious that people who are trying to make a quick buck by illegally selling name brand products without a licence are complaining about being ripped off and scammed.If it wasn't for your own greed you wouldn't have been ripped off in the first place. You people do no research put no effort into marketing you just expect someone to hand you an iphone or something for $150 so you can sell it on Ebay for $600, while all you do is sit around on your scratching yourself. If you bothered to do a bit of work you would find that there are suppliers that can be trusted on this site. You will also find the majority of Chinese people very kind and helpful. Perhaps if you bothered to look further than name brand items you might find some items of real quality and ingenuity. You would also find there is better margin in those products too. But then again that might require some work and common sense something that always seems to be lacking in people who get taken for money.
I would like to know who you dealt with and had a success b2b if you don't mind. Thanks,
fer7chu7@yahoo.com
shanghai global trading group corporation
No.78, Nanjing Road, shanghai, China
cell# +86-0592-8969785
Quoting from [my_hyacinth]:Here's an Idea.......................How about listing companies on Alibaba that have actually followed through with what they have sold fake or genuine! There is a lot of disscusion of all businesses on Alibaba being scammers and selling fakes but I know first hand that not all are scammers, I do know that they are fakes however. I have dealt with 4 companies so far and have been satisfied with the shipments, I dont buy electronics from anywhere except one place, they are exactly like the originals without the brand name on them, they are copiies of the original product and I already know that.
If you are buying something from China most likley it will be a fake, you must know this if you look at where the companies that make the genuine prodcts are located..........For Example: a Pittsburgh Penguins Reebok Jersey, The company that makes the real ones is located in Quebec, Canada, but I have purchased a Penguins jersey from a Alibaba Company and I have purchased the same Jersey, same size from the NHL website and I cannot find any diffrence between the 2, however I know that it is a fake because it comes out of China. So i sell it as a replica jersey. But I am well aware of the fact that most stuff out of China is fake and I am sure that you know that too so why complain about being scammed by fakes when it comes out of a place that is world renowned for making beautiful fakes and to say you didnt know is a little bit feeble after all the Discovery channel, A&E Channel and MSNBC reports that are aired all the time about fakes coming out of Asia
shanghai global trading group corporation
No.78, Nanjing Road, shanghai, China
cell# +86-0592-8969785 and im in need of Tv,s email me at yourbigtimetv@yahoo.com ty
Quoting from [mems]:
Replying to [Business in China]:Hi
I have order two laptop and two mobile phones from PUTAIN KAISHUN TRAD0NG CO.LTD
And they use EMS China They have not delivery to me yet but will do on monday I will inform you if I get the right product
Regards
Mems
As far as we are concerned, business with chinese is over. I have yet to meet one honest chinese and Alibaba is no help. The easiest way is for businesses to stop using Alibaba. Some of the companies and thieves we have ordered from and not received include:
http://hkkunsheng.en.alibaba.com
Dongyang Xia
HongKong Kunsheng Co., Ltd.
Lin Fang Liu
Hebe Li
applekingmac
Shenzen Appleking
macelaptops.com
Quoting from [MervS]:
WARNING - WARNING - WARNING
Every one be aware of following names and company, big scammers:
- Putian Jiayi Trade Co.
- Huarentrade.en.alibaba
- Mr. Gang Wu
- Mr. Tang (Manager as listed in Alibaba)
- www.nike-v5.com
- They use different Western Union accounts and one usual one is the name YINGMIN LI in Western Union, this is the account used by Tang.
We sent money after long negotiation and finally after two weeks they sent ipod instead of iphone.
I beleive the origin of this problem is the systems and companies that give the facilities to these crook people and that is Alibaba. Alibaba should be held responsible for this as they advertised them as gold member and also D&B authenticated company. LETS GET TOGETHER AND STOP ALIBABA FOR THIS. Alibaba bosses making billions of these companies by fraud. Some one should stop them.