Brief Summery of China Scams:
China has a population of more than 1.3 billion, most of Chinese people and companies are honest and reliable enough, but a few scammers have greatly ruined our good image in the international market, so far we have checked out hundreds of business scammers for foreign companies in China. Most of the China Scams are located in Fujian province (covering Fuzhou, Xiamen, Putian, Jinjiang, Zhangzhou, Xianyou and Quanzhou city), Beijing, Zhengzhou, Guangzhou, Guilin and Shenzhen etc. Among them Putian seems to be the home for online-scammers in China. Putian is now notorious for business scammers online, there are hundreds of scammers from Putian have been disclosed and more Putian scammers are moving to some other big cities like Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Fuzhou etc in China after they get "rich" from scamming. Let's know more about Putian and Putian Scammers: 1. Where is Putian? PUTIAN, a small city in Fujian Province, on the west bank of the Taiwan Straits, is hometown to countless overseas Chinese. It is also where the Mazu Culture originated, and is site of the South Shaolin Temple. It's near to Quanzhou, Fuzhou, Jinjiang and Xiamen city in China. Currently Putian city has a population of around 3 million. 2. What is Putian famous for in China? Putian's pillar industries of shoe-making, brewing, electronics, garments, foodstuffs, and machinery have earned the city its epithets "Shoe City," "Beer City," and "Electronic City." The city's foreign-funded Jiatong Tire Co., Ltd., ranks first nationwide in this trade in terms of sales volume, and the Fujian Xuejin Beer Group Co., Ltd., is among the top ten in its field. Putian High-tech Industrial Park, which houses 149 enterprises from 13 countries and regions, is the largest electronic calculator production base in Asia. The Xinwei Electronics Co., Ltd., produces 400,000 electronic calculators daily, and its products are sold to Southern and Western Asia, the Middle East, Africa and Russia, making up 30 percent of the international market. Putian's agriculture has been industrialized, forming five major production bases in aquatic products, fruits, livestock, edible mushrooms, and vegetables. In 2001 and 2002, its annual output of loquats exceeded 30,000 tons, making up 40 percent of the national total, and ranking first in Fujian Province for ten successive years. Putian also takes the lead in raising eels. China's largest eel trading center is located in a street in Putian's Hanjiang New Port, which also serves as China's largest eel pricing and information center. 3. What can you buy from Putian ? Shoes, esp the sports shoes, replicas of Nike, and other brands etc; Electronic watches, electronic calculators; Dried fruits and beer etc. Please note that the exclusively authorized Nike factory is located in Taicang, Suzhou instead of Putian although Putian is very famous in shoe industry on the globe. 4. What can't you buy from Putian ? No international brand is available from Putian online, including Sony PS3, Nokia, Apple and any other well-known brands, there are too many scammers in Putian trying to cheat foreign buyers online with incredibly low prices for their so-called brands. But they normally send nothing after they receive the payment in China. 5. Part of the scammers from Putian city ( there are similar scams in Fuzhou, Xiamen and Quanzhou etc) (checked and offered by some members from Alibaba Forum Community, everybody is free to add more scammers here.) Putian Junnuo Shoes & Clothes Trade Co Ltd Putian Chengxiang Foreign Trade Co., Ltd Putian Tangrentrade Co., Ltd Putian City Licheng District Zhaoyang Trade Co., LTD Putian Chengxiang District Ruifeng Import & Export Co.,Ltd Putian City Licheng District Topsun Trade Co., Ltd Putian Trade2008 Foreign Trade Co., Ltd Putian Chengxiang Huacheng Trade Co.,Ltd Putian Longyue Trade Co Ltd Fuzhou Hailian Trade Industry Co., Ltd Baike (Putian) Athletic Trade Co., Ltd Putian Huacheng Co., Ltd Putian Zhengde Trade Co.Ltd Putian Hongmao Trade Co., Ltd Putian Chengxiang District Shunying Trading Co., Ltd Putian PLAYGAMES TRADE CO. LTD Fuzhou Dragon Sportswear& FootwearTrading Co.,Ltd Putian Anshun Lida Priniting Clothes Co., Ltd Putian Minglian Trading Co.,Ltd Putian Datang Shoes &Clothing Trading Co.,ltd Putian Huaxia Trade Co.,Ltd Putian Dahai Trade Co.,Ltd Putian Qingrong Trading Co.,Ltd Putian Nike Shoes Export Co.,Ltd Excellent Electronic Technology Co., Ltd
Jordan Trade Co.,Ltd The following list is edited by Mr. Wilhelm, a well-known Alibaba member from this forum, please have a look at: http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/204677/Alphabetic_List_Fujian_Region_incl_Putian_fake_Nokia_selling_companies_.htm Chengxiang District Putian City Xinxing Trade Co., Ltd. Chengxiang District Pinglong Clothing Factory Putian City Licheng Zone Risheng Shoes Factory 2times listed with different contact ways … Let's share the story and try not to get scammed next time!
Putian Shuangxiong Co., Ltd
Xianyou Zhongyi Trading Co.,Ltd
Fuzhou Mingfeng Electron Technology Co., Ltd.
Fuzhou ShineDe Trading Co.,Ltd.
Greatwall Trade Co., Ltd.
Huayi Trading Firm
Minggu Shoes Business Firm
Putian City Chengxiang District Barye Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian City Licheng District Huaer Trading Limited Company
Putian City Licheng District Zhaoyang Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Haixi Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Yuehua Footwear Trade Co.,Ltd
Quanzhou Beiqi Garment Co.,ltd.
Tiancheng Trade Co., Ltd.
Tianyuan Trade Co., Ltd.
ZhongYi Trade Co., Ltd., other than Xianyou Zhongyi Trading Co., Ltd
Chengxiang District Xianghui Clothing Store
Chengxiang Fanya Trade Co., Ltd.
Fujian Putian Chengxiang Pide Foreign Trade Co., Ltd. , same details like "Beter Foreign Trade"
Fujian Putian Chengxiang Beter Foreign Trade Co., Ltd., same details like "Pide Foreign Trade"
both have changed form "Peter" to "Beter" and "Bide" to "Pide"
Fujian Putian Traveling Shoes Factory
Fuzhou Jinnuo Trade Co., Ltd.
Fuzhou Shionhao Trade Co., Ltd.
Fuzhou Sigma International Trade Co., Ltd.
Fuzhou ZhongTianLi Trade Co., Ltd. 2times listed with different contact ways
Fuzhou ZhongTianLi Trade Co., Ltd. 2times listed with different contact ways
Han Jiang Wu Tang Yumei Toggery
Hualong Trade Co., Ltd.
Huiyue Shoes Trade Co., Ltd.
Kingpower Trade Co., Ltd.
Licheng District Putian Oukai Trade Co., Ltd.
Longxiang Shoes Co., Ltd.
Putian Chengxiang Foreign Trade Co., Ltd. (The Second Department)
Putian Chengxiang Huacheng Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Chengxiang Xingfu Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Chenshi Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian City Chengxiang District Yale Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian City Licheng District Aotewang Trading Limited Company
Putian City Licheng District Topsun Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian City Licheng Zone Risheng Shoes Factory 2times listed with different contact ways
Putian Eastern Pearl Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Footstar Shoes & Clothes Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Hengwang Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Huabo Trade Co., Ltd., now only Huabu Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Huayutrade Co., Ltd.
Putian Ivy Light Industrial Product Co., Ltd.
Putian Jiayi Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Junnuo Shoes & Clothes Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Kaishun Shoes Co., Ltd.
Putian Licheng District Zhongxiang Trading Co., Ltd.
Putian Lizhi Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Shuangxiong Co., Ltd.
Putian Soar Shoes and Clothes Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Walkon Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Zhengde Trade Co., Ltd.
Putian Ziheng Trading Co., Ltd.
Quanzhou Quangang Samsin Trade Co., Ltd.
Quanzhou Ruineng Electronic Development Co., Ltd.
Sinosun (Xiamen) Import & Export Co., Ltd.
United Trading Co., Ltd.
Xiamen Leadteam Trade Co., Ltd.
Xianyou Zhongyi Trading Co., Ltd.
Yihui Trade Co., Ltd.
Yonghui Trade Co., Ltd.
Zhenhai Ruiguo Garment Store
Quoting from [mcgraphicaldesign]:
Hello..!
The safer, easier way to pay online, is: Paypal, Moneybookers Escrow and L/C.
https://www.paypal.com/row/mrb/pal=DU9SBFJKFT34Y
https://www.moneybookers.com/app/?rid=5039954
Regards.
Giancarlo Gomez
G & J Import Export
Design and Advertising!
Quoting from [ebaygbp2]:
do not trust such offers
Dear sir/Madam:
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Quoting from [flypig]:Quoting from [mcgraphicaldesign]:
Hello..!
The safer, easier way to pay online, is: Paypal, Moneybookers Escrow and L/C.
https://www.paypal.com/row/mrb/pal=DU9SBFJKFT34Y
https://www.moneybookers.com/app/?rid=5039954
Regards.
Giancarlo Gomez
G & J Import Export
Design and Advertising!
anyone can tell me if www.e2etrade.com is a scamer or not . i am gonna buy some shoes from them coz they accept paypal .
[Business in China]:
Thank you ,Very well put together details .
I think this topic / thread should be pinned somewhere easily found on the forums .Along with other threads which highlight the scam potential on this and other trading platforms . Not just for the Putian scams ,but ALL areas.
The main thing which comes to my mind are as follows .
I recently was in telephone contact with Alibaba HQ ,for a number of reasons .I raised the topic of scam listings on this platform,together with some questions regarding gold membership verifications processes. Quite frankly I was astonished by the response to my questions etc .There was almost total denial that scam listings were on the platform .Fair enough you may say ,as no company rep is going to decry their own workplace ,or management etc
But even when I forced the subject further regarding scam listings ,there was still denial.This was after my requesting the Alibaba rep to try something . IE , I requested they choose any international name brand and type it in to the search box .Then check the returns total on the search term .Even after doing this ,with the input term being an international brand of mobile phone ,returning high hundreds of returns ,there was still denial of problem from the Ali rep.
Their reasoning >>> the returns were from gold suppliers ,,therefore all was ok .As the gold suppliers are all fully verified suppliers . They just would not accept that the international brand kit cannot be bought in this way ,on this platform ..Sorry Alibaba ,,just what planet are you on please ?
As far as I figure things ,gold supplier status is nothing more than paid for advertising space on this platform.With the "verification " process appearing to be nothing more than verifying if the supplier can afford to pay the annual gold fee.
My questions to any one in the know regarding international law.>> Can Alibaba be deemed ,in law, to be complicit in potentially fraudulant business? in terms of them clearly allowing listings for products which are not possible to obtain ,via normal trading on this platform?
Quoting from [prosperpro]:
Has anyone ever got anything they ordered on this or any other trade site for that matter. It seems like the entire internets a scam these days. The only place you can trust is Paypal and Ebay. Ive been searching for deals here and all I find is GREAT deals, but the companies all want Western Union and to read these scam pages, god. I think this whole site should be shut down. Its only a gateway to scam artist to prey on people looking to make money. Its a shame when 90% of the companies listed in these Trade and Wholesale sites are fake and nobody does anything about it. DELETE THEIR ACCOUNTS! WHY LET IT CONTINUE??? I guess the Paid membership fees are worth it for you. To me. Alibaba is no better.
Yes ! You are right 100% ! It seems to be that we can not find RELIABLE supplier here !
I have been frauded several times. One by one. By " Alibaba gold members, CERTIFIED" !
What does it mean ?!!!! Cerified for cheating !?
BTW, ALL THOSE GUYS ASK FOR PAYMENT VIA WU OR BANK WIRE TO PERSONAL ACCOUNTS !
NOBODY ACCEPT BANK WIRE TO COMPANY ACCOUNT !!!!
SO,ALWAYS ASK FOR COMPANY ACCOUNT DETAILS !
IF THEY DON`T ACCEPT THAT WAY - FRAUD !!!!!
From SERBIA with love.
diphallus@gmail.com
WHAT IS THE POINT of using a website like ALIBABA as a portal for bussiness when THEY CAN NOT PROTECT YOU FROM SCAMMERS ......
Quoting from [ukmcolombia]:WHAT IS THE POINT of using a website like ALIBABA as a portal for bussiness when THEY CAN NOT PROTECT YOU FROM SCAMMERS ......
the main reason people use these websites is to find TRUE AND HONEST sellers but even when you report to alibaba such scamms they do nothing about it ,,, is like they part of the scam ....
other websites at least verify their sellers ....ALIBABA SUCKS ,,,,
I find it hilarious that people who are trying to make a quick buck by illegally selling name brand products without a licence are complaining about being ripped off and scammed.
If it wasn't for your own greed you wouldn't have been ripped off in the first place. You people do no research put no effort into marketing you just expect someone to hand you an iphone or something for $150 so you can sell it on Ebay for $600, while all you do is sit around on your * scratching yourself. If you bothered to do a bit of work you would find that there are suppliers that can be trusted on this site. You will also find the majority of Chinese people very kind and helpful. Perhaps if you bothered to look further than name brand items you might find some items of real quality and ingenuity. You would also find there is better margin in those products too. But then again that might require some work and common sense something that always seems to be lacking in people who get taken for money.
Quoting from [mems]:
Replying to [Business in China]:Hi
I have order two laptop and two mobile phones from PUTAIN KAISHUN TRAD0NG CO.LTD
And they use EMS China They have not delivery to me yet but will do on monday I will inform you if I get the right product
Regards
Mems
Quoting from [onogold]:
Replying to [Business in China]:
I HAVE JUST BEEN SCAMMED BY WWW.ABYSHOES.COM BASED IN PUTIAN. THESE CHINESSE BUSINESSMEN ARE ABSOLUTELY SICK AND MUST BE CLOSED DOWN.
What item did you purchase with abyshoes.com? I was talking to a lady by the name of Monica about purchasing a few items. I guess that i wont deal with them now. Thanks for the heads up!
Quoting from [Business in China]:i sent money to a company in fujian province to buy 5 pairs of customize shoes, for 220usd. and i knew it was a replica but it is for personal use aand my mate wanted a pair. it is customized to my taste as well. but the thing is i dont see him online, so i added him on my bros account and guess what he is online. i have posted this in the forums, title is " watch out chin scammer will screw ur nuts out" please help, i want those shoes.Quoting from [flypig]:Quoting from [mcgraphicaldesign]:
Hello..!
The safer, easier way to pay online, is: Paypal, Moneybookers Escrow and L/C.
https://www.paypal.com/row/mrb/pal=DU9SBFJKFT34Y
https://www.moneybookers.com/app/?rid=5039954
Regards.
Giancarlo Gomez
G & J Import Export
Design and Advertising!
anyone can tell me if www.e2etrade.com is a scamer or not . i am gonna buy some shoes from them coz they accept paypal .
Yes, you can buy shoes from Putian but only replicas of Nike instead of authentic ones. I bet you'll be scammed as they are not the authorized brand distributors in China. Take care