Many Party complaining of being scammed by Indonesian party, most looses their mony when they are asked to have T/T (telegraphic transfer). Ussually this this TT is asked for paying sample of order. or advance payment
Lacking in information of legitimacy of the company, make buyer looses money, even in many cases not only this matter also because buyer are greed to have such cheaper product.
Except for pricing matter, Here below tips which buyer can do for verifying company.
The formal legitimacy.
All company like in other country must have legitimacy from goverment. they must have all certificate :
1. Notaris Akta : this certificate issued by Notaris (legal lawyer) stateing that company was legalizes by law, the company will be then authentificated by Ministry of Justise of Indonesia. This certificate stamped by formal goverment and registered whit certain number. in case of smallest company with less than 5 million Idr Or 550 Usd in capital only need to have UD (Usaha Dagang) certificate, this issued by Local Departement of trade.
2. NPWP (Nomor Pendaftaran Wajib Pajak)
This is certificate of Tax Registered, every trade party from smallest to biggest one must have. Even not only trade office person who have big income must have this NPWP certificate.
3. SIUP (Surat Izin Usaha Perdagangan)
This certificate mean Certificate Of License for Trade office. Both party above must then registered to goverment body to registere their existan, on this certificate the party must have real office address, landline or post paid phone number, and personal who take responsible for the Company. This certificate was to prove real office address. this certificate issued by Department of Trade.
4. TDP (Tanda Daftar Perusahaan)
This certificate mean License of Legal Company. Both party above must then registered to goverment body to registere their company , on this certificate the party must have real Company address, landline or post paid phone number, and personal who take responsible for the Company. This certificate was to Onwership of Company. this certificate issued by Departement of Trade.
Th 4 Certificate MUST be hold by all legal company in Indonesia, Those who want to open trade office must own that document. Legal broker, Trade agent and/or Business office, every one who do not have that certificate could be consider as personal, or non legal company/trade or scammer.
Anyway, If those who claim to be manufacture there are any other legal certification, MUST have. Here below,
5. IUI (Izin Usaha Industri).
This certificate mean License of Legal Industry/Factory. All party above must then registered to goverment body to register their Industry or Factory or Manufactory, on this certificate the party must have real Factory/manufacture, and personal who take responsible for the Industry/factory/manufactory. This certificate was to acknowlage Ownership of Industry/Factory/Manufactory. this certificate issued by Departemen of Industry.
6. Certification of membership on field assosiation
This license issued by asosiation which the company produce same comodity, like in wooden industry they Issued license call BRIK (Badan Revitalisasi Industry Kayu). Authentificate by Departement of Industry.
7. Export License
in case of furniture those who claim as exportir MUST have certificate ETPIK (Ekportir Terdaftar Produk Industri Kehutanan). Issue by Direktorat Jendral Perdagangan LuarNegri. or Goverment Body which handle foreing Trade. they give registered number for every exportir.
For those who are in other business must have their such certificate.
8. Import License.
For those who claim as legal Impotir for certain comodity Must have certificate called Import License, this certificate is issued by Finacial, Custom and Tax Departeman. For certain comoditi, even only manufactory inport are permitted. But in other comodity general importir are allowed.
Note :
a. for legal trade agent or trade office may only have 4 certificate above, from 1 to 4 point. Those who can not show you that document mean illegal or Scammer.
b. But those who claim as Manufactory Must have 1 to 4 plus point 5. Then those who can not show you that document mean he is on point a, or cheater, or do not have factory.
c. For those who claim as Manufactory and exportir MUST have 1 to 5 plus point 6 and 7. Those who can not show you that document mean they are on point b or only manufacture not exportir
d. and for those who will import goods from outside Indonesia must have all 8 certificate. Those who can not show the document mean they are not importir only mufacture and exportir.
e. Those who have all 8 document mean a real big party and real party to trust.
But. how can verbally verify all those document? this question will be answer on next topic. or the link.

Can you please help me. Im wary of being scammed by Indonesian companies so i would just like to check if this company really exists. The contact information is:

Name:	Mr Fauzi Baadila
Company:	Darma Part Shop
Address:	Jl. Raya Bogor KM 88 No. 35b Denai
Country:	Indonesia
Phone:	62-21-7754870
Fax:	62-21-7754871

Is it a real company and are they trustworthy?

Thanks for your time.

Quoting from [ausbikes]:

Can you please help me. Im wary of being scammed by Indonesian companies so i would just like to check if this company really exists. The contact information is:

Name:	Mr Fauzi Baadila
Company:	Darma Part Shop
Address:	Jl. Raya Bogor KM 88 No. 35b Denai
Country:	Indonesia
Phone:	62-21-7754870
Fax:	62-21-7754871

Is it a real company and are they trustworthy?

Thanks for your time.

I am sorry the company profile is not match with legal company.

1. Name of Fauzi Baadila is a name of movie star in indonesia, i am doubt he is the owner.

2. The company list in Medan , Sumatra Utara, but his phone is in Jakarta Java, it is an other island.

3. The company Pos code is not listed one, is it fake Pos code.


I am afraid it is not a real company.

More over price of branded bike in Indonesia will round 500 - 1250 usd,


my advice are

1. it is suspicious company.

2. be carefull if you still want to get deal with this company.

sorri guy,

this is not the most important thing


all document can be a fake

and if you are doing business, i think you wont so stupid to give your licence company to somebody that you don't ever know !!

how about the buyer is scam ?

if i am a scam

i got your document, and i making the new username again

and show to the people that i'm the owner of your company

and for the payment, tranfer to my bnk ccnt for several reason !


hohoho

i'm sorry sir


THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT METHODS !!!

Quoting from [noscamplease08]:




sorri guy,


this is not the most important thing



all document can be a fake


and if you are doing business, i think you wont so stupid to give your licence company to somebody that you don't ever know !!


how about the buyer is scam ?


if i am a scam


i got your document, and i making the new username again


and show to the people that i'm the owner of your company


and for the payment, tranfer to my bnk ccnt for several reason !



hohoho


i'm sorry sir



THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT METHODS !!!

it is good point of view that why the reason that do not transfer of payment to any personal  bnk ccnt for payment.   you may copy even use other document but you could not register your company phone and bnk accnt for company,

Quoting from [seratjati]:

Quoting from [noscamplease08]:





sorri guy,



this is not the most important thing




all document can be a fake



and if you are doing business, i think you wont so stupid to give your licence company to somebody that you don't ever know !!



how about the buyer is scam ?



if i am a scam



i got your document, and i making the new username again



and show to the people that i'm the owner of your company



and for the payment, tranfer to my bnk ccnt for several reason !




hohoho



i'm sorry sir




THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT METHODS !!!

it is good point of view that why the reason that do not transfer of payment to any personal  bnk ccnt for payment.   you may copy even use other document but you could not register your company phone and bnk accnt for company,

hehehe

take an easy sir  !


for me, its so easy to make all the fake document !

make a fake document

make all fake data

re-scan

post it

:)


but i aprreciate your post, sir ;)

Quoting from [noscamplease08]:

Quoting from [seratjati]:

Quoting from [noscamplease08]:






sorri guy,




this is not the most important thing





all document can be a fake




and if you are doing business, i think you wont so stupid to give your licence company to somebody that you don't ever know !!




how about the buyer is scam ?




if i am a scam




i got your document, and i making the new username again




and show to the people that i'm the owner of your company




and for the payment, tranfer to my bnk ccnt for several reason !





hohoho




i'm sorry sir





THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT METHODS !!!

it is good point of view that why the reason that do not transfer of payment to any personal bnk ccnt for payment. you may copy even use other document but you could not register your company phone and bnk accnt for company,

hehehe


take an easy sir !



for me, its so easy to make all the fake document !


make a fake document


make all fake data


re-scan


post it


:)



but i aprreciate your post, sir ;)

    

use a third parter to verify this company.

Quoting from [twinstar]:

use a third parter to verify this company.

who will be ?

Hi,

Good day! I read your comments and see it very good and useful. Can you help me verify this company from Indonesia?

Company Name:

Street Address:

City:

Province/State:

Country/Region:

Zip:

Telephone:

PT.tangkahan print

JLN. CEMPAKA RAYA, NO 45 B

MEDAN

Propinsi Sumatera Utara

Indonesia

20157

62-61-77638521

 

They are selling Roland printer/cutter machine, and I would like to verify there credibility, thank you in advance

 

Excel

Quoting from [ecanque]:

Hi,

Good day! I read your comments and see it very good and useful. Can you help me verify this company from Indonesia?

Company Name:


Street Address:


City:


Province/State:


Country/Region:


Zip:


Telephone:

PT.tangkahan print

JLN. CEMPAKA RAYA, NO 45 B

MEDAN

Propinsi Sumatera Utara

Indonesia

20157

62-61-77638521

They are selling Roland printer/cutter machine, and I would like to verify there credibility, thank you in advance

Excel

Good day,

here below what i could advice :

1. name of company not know yet.

2. address is real

3. Poscode is not match with address it must be 20124 not like listed 20157, but it does not mean it not real some time poscode is not same ok

4. phone number for city code is ok, but number is not vreyfied yet.

you must make more detail and clear verifycation by checking phone and legal doc of company.

if you need more question TM me on my TM. or YM.

have nice buying