Many Party complaining of being scammed by Indonesian party, most looses their mony when they are asked to have T/T (telegraphic transfer). Ussually this this TT is asked for paying sample of order. or advance payment
Lacking in information of legitimacy of the company, make buyer looses money, even in many cases not only this matter also because buyer are greed to have such cheaper product.
Except for pricing matter, Here below tips which buyer can do for verifying company.
The formal legitimacy.
All company like in other country must have legitimacy from goverment. they must have all certificate :
1. Notaris Akta : this certificate issued by Notaris (legal lawyer) stateing that company was legalizes by law, the company will be then authentificated by Ministry of Justise of Indonesia. This certificate stamped by formal goverment and registered whit certain number. in case of smallest company with less than 5 million Idr Or 550 Usd in capital only need to have UD (Usaha Dagang) certificate, this issued by Local Departement of trade.
2. NPWP (Nomor Pendaftaran Wajib Pajak)
This is certificate of Tax Registered, every trade party from smallest to biggest one must have. Even not only trade office person who have big income must have this NPWP certificate.
3. SIUP (Surat Izin Usaha Perdagangan)
This certificate mean Certificate Of License for Trade office. Both party above must then registered to goverment body to registere their existan, on this certificate the party must have real office address, landline or post paid phone number, and personal who take responsible for the Company. This certificate was to prove real office address. this certificate issued by Department of Trade.
4. TDP (Tanda Daftar Perusahaan)
This certificate mean License of Legal Company. Both party above must then registered to goverment body to registere their company , on this certificate the party must have real Company address, landline or post paid phone number, and personal who take responsible for the Company. This certificate was to Onwership of Company. this certificate issued by Departement of Trade.
Th 4 Certificate MUST be hold by all legal company in Indonesia, Those who want to open trade office must own that document. Legal broker, Trade agent and/or Business office, every one who do not have that certificate could be consider as personal, or non legal company/trade or scammer.
Anyway, If those who claim to be manufacture there are any other legal certification, MUST have. Here below,
5. IUI (Izin Usaha Industri).
This certificate mean License of Legal Industry/Factory. All party above must then registered to goverment body to register their Industry or Factory or Manufactory, on this certificate the party must have real Factory/manufacture, and personal who take responsible for the Industry/factory/manufactory. This certificate was to acknowlage Ownership of Industry/Factory/Manufactory. this certificate issued by Departemen of Industry.
6. Certification of membership on field assosiation
This license issued by asosiation which the company produce same comodity, like in wooden industry they Issued license call BRIK (Badan Revitalisasi Industry Kayu). Authentificate by Departement of Industry.
7. Export License
in case of furniture those who claim as exportir MUST have certificate ETPIK (Ekportir Terdaftar Produk Industri Kehutanan). Issue by Direktorat Jendral Perdagangan LuarNegri. or Goverment Body which handle foreing Trade. they give registered number for every exportir.
For those who are in other business must have their such certificate.
8. Import License.
For those who claim as legal Impotir for certain comodity Must have certificate called Import License, this certificate is issued by Finacial, Custom and Tax Departeman. For certain comoditi, even only manufactory inport are permitted. But in other comodity general importir are allowed.
Note :
a. for legal trade agent or trade office may only have 4 certificate above, from 1 to 4 point. Those who can not show you that document mean illegal or Scammer.
b. But those who claim as Manufactory Must have 1 to 4 plus point 5. Then those who can not show you that document mean he is on point a, or cheater, or do not have factory.
c. For those who claim as Manufactory and exportir MUST have 1 to 5 plus point 6 and 7. Those who can not show you that document mean they are on point b or only manufacture not exportir
d. and for those who will import goods from outside Indonesia must have all 8 certificate. Those who can not show the document mean they are not importir only mufacture and exportir.
e. Those who have all 8 document mean a real big party and real party to trust.
But. how can verbally verify all those document? this question will be answer on next topic. or the link.

Dear All

Sorry to say i am not so active to read my post, i apoloqie to respond the question late.

@ germano, seem you face with no one,
@ chirow2000, you better think monre detail to get deal
@ nunes, seem they are real but in buying think you better ask 3rd party to do company check and product check before buying.
@ roofer I emailed you answer, point is possible to get law inforcement here with your case.
@ danielpang1974 better youi think twice

Point is absolutly posible, i am writing email to your. please contac me to following up.

regards

Hi Sir, I would like some advice as to whether this company is real. They sell tennis ball machines and are free member with Alibaba. Their details are: Name: Karya Machines Teknik Address: JL . Jendral Sudirman Kav No. 10 Jakarta Pusat 10270 also: JL. Sisingamaraja No. 045 Medan Sumatera Utara Indonesia Tel: +62 - 81 - 396859206 +62 - 81 - 7222335 Fax: +62 - 81 - 7222335 Beneficiary Name: Andhika Permana Could you please tell me if they are a real and trust worthy business. Please send to my direct email: famlyman@bigpond.net.au Thank you In advance Sir and I appreciate all your help. famlyman.

i send resume to your email about this request.
regards
seratjati

Hello Mr. Seratijati,

BEFORE I BUY ANYTHING!!!! I would like to know the truth and authenthicy of this person and the locationof the address here below:

Herman Sugianto
CV.Dunia Velg
Jln. Surabaya# 56,
Tangerang, Jakarta Raya
Indonesia.
Tel: 62-021-6829-1858
62-021-7000-8234
Our Email: cvduniavelg@gmail.com
Message IP Address:118.96.42.*
Message Origin:Indonesia

This person is trading and selling on www.Alibaba.com.
I have been trying for weeks on finding out if this is legitamate or not so I am asking you for your help sir. Please let me know is this person is a scammer because what he offers is to good to be true. I HATE scammers and I DONT want this to happen to me, you, or anyone else.

Best regards.

Hello Mr. Seratijati,

BEFORE I BUY ANYTHING!!!! I would like to know the truth and authenthicy of this person and the locationof the address here below:

Herman Sugianto
CV.Dunia Velg
Jln. Surabaya# 56,
Tangerang, Jakarta Raya
Indonesia.
Tel: 62-021-6829-1858
62-021-7000-8234
Our Email: cvduniavelg@gmail.com
Message IP Address:118.96.42.*
Message Origin:Indonesia

This person is trading and selling on www.Alibaba.com.
I have been trying for weeks on finding out if this is legitamate or not so I am asking you for your help sir. Please let me know is this person is a scammer because what he offers is to good to be true. I HATE scammers and I DONT want this to happen to me, you, or anyone else.

Best regards.

please let me know your email i will email you resume of ythis seller.

regards

Hello. Could you help me? Is this company legitimate? These are info on the cerificate they sent me.

PT. Total Instrument Surveying Co., Ltd. REgistration: 1991/HSE/PDE/64 with address at JL. Kompl. Kariamte# 397 Medan, Sumatera Utara Indonesia

There is also another NPWP 1991/62/6422/ELT/689

I would appreciate it very much if you could help me.

 Thanks in advance.