What is the real purpose of Alibaba ?
Hello to everyone . I'm a new member of Alibaba , I registered about two weeks ago . Almost two months ago I decided that I wont to start new business , importing electronics from China . After very short research I found couple trading websites like Alibaba . My first impression was that this is great way to start , safe and easy , I bet a lot of us though the same . After I found suppliers and negotiated prices for samples I've placed four orders . I know it wasn't smart at all to pay by Western Union but who doesn't risk doesn't make money plus I felt safe I was doing business with members of Alibaba . Ok , so far I have two tracking numbers , one looks ok , second one doesn't work at all and I lost contact with two of those people I was dealing with . I've done my homework , I've read some articles , forums , found couple websites with list of scams , now I know that it is not easy and safe to do it , to start it . I've lost couple hundreds of dollars and I'm not mad because of this , I am mad because everyday I receive few emails from Alibaba with some selling leads , 20 to 30% of those leads are posted by companies listed as a scams . My question is : Is Alibaba safe and what is the real purpose of it ? Is it just easy way to advertise for those scammers ? Is there any way to improve this website ? I paid my lesson , maybe that is how we start .

Update : I was right one of tracking numbers was real , package came this morning but instead of Iphone and Nokia N95 I got two cheap copies of nokia 2100 . Is it mistake ? I don't know yet . If I don't hear from those guys until tomorrow I will post full info about this company . Update : Haven't heard even word form them , this is company info : GOLD SUPPLIER 2-nd year PUTIAN TANGRENTRADE CO. Name of person : Lincon Company Name: Putian Tangrentrade Co., Ltd. Contact Person: Mr. Mike Chen Street Address: Room 203, Back Building, Lane 298, 821 South Street, Licheng District, Putian City, Fujian Province. China City: Putian Province/State: Fujian Country/Region: China Zip: 351100 Telephone: 0086-594-2593658 Mobile Phone: 0086-13959519941 Fax: 0086-594-2593558 Website: http://www.tangrentrade.com http://tangrentrade.en.alibaba.com SCAM !!!

Replying to [Stann]:

The real purpose of Alibaba is to provide a platform for interested businesspartners !

Alibaba is only a mediator without any reliabilty !

For your received package, you must know that this is usual practice if you have read a lot in the resources. No chance to solve it !

Wilhelm

Replying to [Stann]:

I agree they are a bunch of scammers!!!

I ordered $1300 worth of products and still nothing after a month of waiting. I asked for money back, and no answer at all.

TANGRENTRADE IS A SCAM COMPANY!!!

Replying to [Stann]
i have been scammed from about $2,000 from a company on alibaba, alibaba feels they are not responsible in any way... but giving these members what they call "gold suppliers" and they get enough complaints from one company but still dont remove them from their website, i feel if we all get together and and do a civil lawsuit against alibibaba that would be the anyway we would get some kind of justice. :

Replying to [Stann]:Yep watch them.
I need your help to....
I would like everyone in the world to fight back against scammers. I am so sick of these kinds of people.

If you are reading this, would you email as many people you know and ask them to do the same. Or if you know any webs to declare scammers, pass this onto them.

The more people we can reach , we might just reach someone from being scammed.

Let's give them back what they do to innocent people.

BEWARE OF THIS ELECTRONIC PRODUCT SUPPLIER

You may recieve soe goods which you did not order but most likely you won't get anything at all. These people make honest people look bad!

Email as many people with these details, ask them to do the same and continue on, so we can reach as many people worldwide to [rotect them from people like this.


First name:changshun last name:cao
Address:zhenjiang city,jiangsu,china
PostCode:212000

ps3_mp4@hotmail.com
ps3_mp4@yahoo.com
http://www.supply4u.com.cn



Hi,Dear Friend
We are an electronic products wholesale,All our products are original with high quality and low price. If you want to do business,we can offer you the most reasonable discount to make you get more profits.we are from the factory directly with a very larger amount,so we can supply you the better price! the more product you order, the lower price you will get! all the product are the new brand and original boxed! we have the laptop, Mobile phones, LCD TV's, MP3/MP4, games consoles, GPS,Digital Cameras etc. We will give you the best server for you!
Some products list and price as below:
APPLE IPOD VIDEO 5 30G(USD 100) 60G(USD 125) 80G(USD 150)
APPLE IPOD NANO 3 4GB(USD 70) 8GB(USD 80)
Mobile phones:
Nokia 8800 Gold USD 240
Nokia 8800 sirocco USD 230
Nokia 8600 Luna USD 230
Nokia N95 USD 230
Nokia N73 USD 175
Nokia E90 USD 220
Apple iphone 8GB USD 230
Sony Ericsson
Side kick 3
BlackBerry
Motorola v3x
SONY PS3 10 games video,4 controllers
Nintendo wii 15 games video,4 controllers
XBOX360 20 games video,4 controllers
TomTom Garmin GPS
Memory card
Digital Picture Frame
Laptops
LCD TV'S
The price including shipping fees,shipping time is only 3-5 days,Hope We can establish long term cooperation with you!

YEAH RIGHT!

Look guys let me put it in a simple way, alibaba is anther scammer, which just cares about getting paid by the so called Gold Members, and make easy money. It is basically providing scammers an easy way to rich people like us who believe in these things. If alibaba really cared and had some support team would get rid of all of these people, but like I said if you are getting tons of money from scammers just to be on your site, what do you care if some people complain? Its the truth, and enough of these people replying to us like you should research and do your homework about the company, because honestly i doubt there are any legit electronics company out here, they are all scammers, and if its shoe's or clothing, they are all replicas, nothings authentic like they call it, so why not eliminate all those companies and i think its time for Alibaba to do their own homework.

Quoting from [Stann]:


What is the real purpose of Alibaba ?

Hello to everyone . I'm a new member of Alibaba , I registered about two weeks ago . Almost two months ago I decided that I wont to start new business , importing electronics from China . After very short research I found couple trading websites like Alibaba . My first impression was that this is great way to start , safe and easy , I bet a lot of us though the same . After I found suppliers and negotiated prices for samples I've placed four orders . I know it wasn't smart at all to pay by Western Union but who doesn't risk doesn't make money plus I felt safe I was doing business with members of Alibaba . Ok , so far I have two tracking numbers , one looks ok , second one doesn't work at all and I lost contact with two of those people I was dealing with . I've done my homework , I've read some articles , forums , found couple websites with list of scams , now I know that it is not easy and safe to do it , to start it . I've lost couple hundreds of dollars and I'm not mad because of this , I am mad because everyday I receive few emails from Alibaba with some selling leads , 20 to 30% of those leads are posted by companies listed as a scams . My question is : Is Alibaba safe and what is the real purpose of it ? Is it just easy way to advertise for those scammers ? Is there any way to improve this website ? I paid my lesson , maybe that is how we start .


Update : I was right one of tracking numbers was real , package came this morning but instead of Iphone and Nokia N95 I got two cheap copies of nokia 2100 . Is it mistake ? I don't know yet . If I don't hear from those guys until tomorrow I will post full info about this company . Update : Haven't heard even word form them , this is company info : GOLD SUPPLIER 2-nd year PUTIAN TANGRENTRADE CO. Name of person : Lincon Company Name: Putian Tangrentrade Co., Ltd. Contact Person: Mr. Mike Chen Street Address: Room 203, Back Building, Lane 298, 821 South Street, Licheng District, Putian City, Fujian Province. China City: Putian Province/State: Fujian Country/Region: China Zip: 351100 Telephone: 0086-594-2593658 Mobile Phone: 0086-13959519941 Fax: 0086-594-2593558 Website: http://www.tangrentrade.com http://tangrentrade.en.alibaba.com SCAM !!!

I too was scammed by Indonesians for US$1720, and also think that Alibaba is making it too easy for these arseholes to keep ripping people off.

When people first discover Alibaba, they have no idea of all this scamming going on, they put trust in Alibaba, do the deal, get ripped off, and then find the forum part of Alibaba with the FRAUD stories.......oops, .....too late !!

As I have already told Alibaba, if they are fairdinkum, they would already have a system in place that would stop all this scamming, and possibly even be able to help bring them to justice, but doesn't look like they have done anything at all.

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What a good trading site for these arseholes, when it seems that there are plenty of naive mugs like myself and plenty of others around the world !!

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Dear friend.. is really a pity all that things that happened to you.. I 'm buying here in alibaba from members Gold suppliers Mp3s, Mp4s and cellphones made in china for about 4 yearsand (thanks God) I never had problems because first I allwaysbe lookinga gold member with a trust pass andno less tham3 years as a gold memberin this site... also allways I request that they give me a bank.. acound...with they company name (because in that way I will be sure that they are a real company), of course allways before I send the money I search with google things about that company.. Some times I put the company name and the word SCAM, other times I also put the compleate company web link and of course the word SCAM or/and FRAUD.. and in most of the opportunities went is ascam company I found some about they allready frauded some inocent people.. I noted that to many companies here that have only one year or less(not alls of thembut almost all of them) are scammers and more if they are selling "BRAND" cellphones or "BRAND" laptops or some "BRAND" game hardware... so take care with thats companies almost all of them are scamer.. if you dont see nothing before the google search take care too and see the time that the company have as a Gold member... The GOLD alibaba member cost about 10.000USD well just think how many "BAD" company they can regist if they scam only 4 or 5 people.. that is to much money.. but they take that opption because they know if they buy a Gold they will scam to many more people... So..Thats are my advices I hope help to many people... PS: Sorry for my english but I speak spanish :-) .. God bless you all!! .. GOOD LUCK! .. BUT ALSO GOOD EYE TO ANY THING YOU WILL DO AT THE INTERNET