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TO ALL ALIBABA BUYER.BEWARE OF THIS COMPANY.I HAVE RESEARCH AND MY FRIEND TOLD THAT ALL DETAILS FAKE


HERE IS DETAILS OF COMPANY :


Pt Pancing Ikan

Leton Siak Co.,Ltd

PT. Vertex Co

Rider Company

YONKSUN.inc

Brand Express

PT Agung Fishing group

Baruna Kencana Sakti

PT. Sari Tanjung Terajipta

PANCING BATAVIA

Danau Toba Company

PT. GUNAMANDIRI PARIPURNA

PT.Searchindo

Iskandar Fishing

Marhom Fishing Store

Sporty Haroja Centre

 BUDI ARTA SAKTI.PT

Dunia Pancing Jaya Sport

Pancing Business Centre PT

Aneka Pancing

sinarberingin.ltd

PT.SAHABAT PANCING

Master Fisher77 Co.,Ltd.

PT.Shima fishing

PT. PLANETWAVE

Lautan Mas Fishing

PT.LASRT

PT. DAYA GUNA

polin

PT. Dominik

Pt Jolmatedoho

Sport Galery,Ltd

Pasopati Sport Fishing Shop

Polylon Fishery Supply PT

CV.Mandra Guna Electronic

 CV. Indo Fishing Reel

CV.Global Fishing

PT. MUSBA

PT.REZEKI SHIMANO

PT STAR Shimano

PT. Sumber Mulia

Pancing Sakti

PT. Jago Pancing

PT. Mariana Bahagia

REZEKI PANJING

PT.REELSHIMANO INDOPART

Sinar Nelayan

 CV.WARTEL PANCING

Haryanto Sports Water Co.,Ltd

PT Astana Fishair

Sport Dunia Pancing

Matahari Fishing Net & Twine

CAHAYA Fishing Store

CV. Borneo Fishing & Tackle

NGENTOT BERSAMA STORE

Katon Bagaskara. CV

Perintis.Sarana.Pancing

Kartini Fishing Shop

pt.shimanobersinar

laukpauk.ltd

PT. THAMRIN PLAZA REEL

Saparah Turangan Sumandai Co.,Ltd

PT.GAWEL MEDAN SHIMANO

PT.REEL JAYA CLUB

PT. Gumpalan Raya

CV. Mitra Blawn Fishing

PT.SHIMANO INDO

Tamasya Sportama Co.,Ltd

PT. Tarikan Pancing

PT. Samudera Semestackle

SECERCAH CAHAYA .PT

berebakkudalan

REEL MERDEKA Ltd

P.T Pancing Anak Muda

Pt. Dsport

PT.Kersik Keabadian Company

PT NELAYAN PANCING

PT.SURBAKTI NGKAWIL JAZZ

PT. Belawan Fish Tbk

PT Surpung

Pelangi Sport, Inc

PT.Partete

SEAMAN TUNGGAL AMATUNG. CV

Global Fishing Center

PT.SURBAKTY

PT.FISHING SHOP

Ikan Nelayan

General Fishing Supply.Co.Ltd

Cano Trade

PT PERMATA

Goldfish Ultratech Reel.Co.,Ltd

PT. ANUGERAH

Satya Grana Sukamulih Pt

Sotriya Kompenos Soksarel Co.,Ltd

Pasifik Group

PT.Dua Pancing

Pt.Nelayan indo

PT. Binjai Nelayan Store

Samudra Indah Raya

PT. Pusat Games, Inc

West Irian Fishing Industries PT

CV.Dutamasbrothers

GoodFishingClub Enterprise

PT. 99FP

PT. Cadang Pancing

PT.Sumber Berkah Pancing

PT. Rejeki Kita

PT. Bangau Fishing Tackle

PT. KING TECH FISHING GALERY.CO.LTD

CV. Gamma Fishing

CV.Tapanuli Pancing Sejahtera

Greenday Outdoor Company

PT. Aneka Ragam

PT. Adikoro

Water Hobby

Renaissance Industries


PLEASE NEVER TRUST SELLER FROM MEDAN,NORTH SUMATERA AND ALL BANK ACCOUNT FROM MEDAN,NORTH SUMATERA


ALL ARE FAKE AND SCAMMER


HOPE ALIBABA TAKE ACTION


SAFE PEOPLE FROM FRAUD !!

If any company sells more than one kind of products ( for example : Clothes, Electronic etc.), you should definetely ignore them. How does a company sell clothes and electronic at the same time ?? :)

HOPE ALIBABA TAKE ACTION



SAFE PEOPLE FROM FRAUD !!

Hello, you can add the following to the list:

Company: Putian Duocai Fabric Co., Ltd,

Name: Zhiyong Li

Name: Amy Wan

Josh, St-Jerome, Quebec, Canada

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Quoting from [Safe Trading Admin]:

I recently joined Alibaba.com. I sent a message around saying that I was looking for clothes and I got a few replies back, and got talking to one supplier on MSN. I looked at his website, and enquired about the cost of his mobile phones - the apple iPhone was $250, so I immediately saw dollar signs in my mind! I want to buy ten phones, but I am hesitating about dealing with this supplier.

How to do your due diligence in this case:

1. If the supplier usually sells products in a completely different line, take care as you may be dealing with a fraudulent company. e.g. a clothing supplier who sells brand name mobile phones as well.

2. Always remember, if it is too good to be true, it probably is. If the price of the products are 50% lower than the normal market price, there is a chance that the products sent will be counterfeits or broken.

3: If a potential business partner claims to be an Alibaba.com Gold Supplier, use the company name they provide and find their company website on Alibaba.com. We recommend you to contact the supplier directly on Alibaba.comusing TradeManagerto

confirm their company details and genuine email address. Some fraudsters will misuse the name of Gold Suppliers to commit fraud.

4: If the supplier insists on Western Union payment only, then choose another supplier. Serious suppliers will always offer a selection of payment methods.Western Union is not the recommended payment method for transferring money to strangers.

5. Use the company name, email address or telephone number to do a Google search. If this company's information or website is listed under different company names, it is most likely they are not serious.

6. Search the Alibaba.com Forum to find out if there is any negative feedback against this company.

Please do not trust this Gold Supplier http://ythuajian.preview.alibaba.com/ they have scammed our company and will do the same to you ..The person in direct contacty is named Rose and she will lie to you send you fraudlent information and try to steal as much from you as you can we have dedicated to finding these fraudlent dealers and making sure they are exposed, Alibaba needs to work on a better screening process, and more disiplinary actions for these bad sellers. here is the company info. http://ythuajian.preview.alibaba.com/

Quoting from [Safe Trading Admin]:

I recently joined Alibaba.com. I sent a message around saying that I was looking for clothes and I got a few replies back, and got talking to one supplier on MSN. I looked at his website, and enquired about the cost of his mobile phones - the apple iPhone was $250, so I immediately saw dollar signs in my mind! I want to buy ten phones, but I am hesitating about dealing with this supplier.

How to do your due diligence in this case:

1. If the supplier usually sells products in a completely different line, take care as you may be dealing with a fraudulent company. e.g. a clothing supplier who sells brand name mobile phones as well.

2. Always remember, if it is too good to be true, it probably is. If the price of the products are 50% lower than the normal market price, there is a chance that the products sent will be counterfeits or broken.

3: If a potential business partner claims to be an Alibaba.com Gold Supplier, use the company name they provide and find their company website on Alibaba.com. We recommend you to contact the supplier directly on Alibaba.comusing TradeManagerto

confirm their company details and genuine email address. Some fraudsters will misuse the name of Gold Suppliers to commit fraud.

4: If the supplier insists on Western Union payment only, then choose another supplier. Serious suppliers will always offer a selection of payment methods.Western Union is not the recommended payment method for transferring money to strangers.

5. Use the company name, email address or telephone number to do a Google search. If this company's information or website is listed under different company names, it is most likely they are not serious.

6. Search the Alibaba.com Forum to find out if there is any negative feedback against this company.

Don't do it.  They will be fake.  I orderd two Ipod touch from a supplier in China, for $120 each.  I knew it was to good to be true, but i figured i would test the waters.  He kept trying to get me to order 10.  Well he did mail me the two and they looked like they came out of a gumball machine.  They were actually very cheap, low quality Mp3 players in a fake ipod box.  Beware, there company website is www.2008sneaker.com.  Do not do business with them.

ATTENTION ALL ALIBABA BUYERS


BE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THIS SELLER:

WILLIAM MARGIN

TELECOMS ADVISE BUREAU

1300 GRAND STREET, UNITED STATES

1-619-445-6459
HE WILL ASK YOU TO CONTACT HIM BY E-MAIL USING THIS PROFILE:
HAMIT KHAN

hamitkhanlmt@fastermail.com
hamithkhan@yahoo.com


HE WILL SHIP USING THIS COMPANY:
Sharon Kingston (info@despatchmasters.org)
Despatch Masters

THE BARN HIGH STREET, UPPER BEEDING,

STEYNING,

W. SUSSEX, BN44 3WN.

LONDON.

44 704 579 8024
info@despatchmasters.org

DURING THIS SHIPMENT, HE WILL PLACE YOUR ORDER ON HOLD AND ASK YOU TO MAKE MONEY OVER TO FOR IMPORT TAX IN THE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES THE SHIPMENT GOES THROUGH:

My Boss below:

Receivers Firts Name: Quadri

Receivers Last Name: Yusuf

Address: 12, Otigba Street Ikeja Lagos Nigeria

YOU CAN BE VERY MUCH SURE YOU NEVER RECEIVE YOUR SHIPMENT


IF YOUR ARE LUCKY YOU CAN CHECK MIME AT WWW.DESPATCHMASTERS.ORG

CHECK TRACKING NUMBER A474756568969


NEVER PAY USING MONEY TRANSFER YOU CAN'T BE SURE OF ESPECIALLY WESTERN UNION.

WHEN COMMUNICATING OUTSIDE ALIBABA, BE VERY SUSPICIOUS.


AT LAST I WISH YOU ALL GOOD LUCK IN YOUR BISSINESS.

Quoting from [Safe Trading Admin]:

I am sorry that I was not aware of the alibaba fraud trading forums before I did my first overseas trade, with Indonesia.( I was trying to buy electric mobility scooters )

I lost US$1720 as soon as PT INDO WHEELCHAIR, Mr. Suranta Darmawan, received my money into BANK MANDIRI, (I've since read a lot of posts where the scammers in Indonesia are using BANK MANDIRI )

I have made a NSW Police report, and also submitted a report to the Indonesian Embassy Police, and also AUSTRAC.

I hope they can do something as Indonesia has a full blown fraudsters business going; who knows if any of these funds are going to * organisations as well.

This was a sharp learning curve for me, and also will not do much for Indonesia in the long run.

ALIBABA, should have a mandatory short training course for all newcomers to warn them of what I, and it seems, heaps of others have experienced.

I recently joined Alibaba.com. I sent a message around saying that I was looking for clothes and I got a few replies back, and got talking to one supplier on MSN. I looked at his website, and enquired about the cost of his mobile phones - the apple iPhone was $250, so I immediately saw dollar signs in my mind! I want to buy ten phones, but I am hesitating about dealing with this supplier.

How to do your due diligence in this case:

1. If the supplier usually sells products in a completely different line, take care as you may be dealing with a fraudulent company. e.g. a clothing supplier who sells brand name mobile phones as well.

2. Always remember, if it is too good to be true, it probably is. If the price of the products are 50% lower than the normal market price, there is a chance that the products sent will be counterfeits or broken.

3: If a potential business partner claims to be an Alibaba.com Gold Supplier, use the company name they provide and find their company website on Alibaba.com. We recommend you to contact the supplier directly on Alibaba.comusing TradeManagerto

confirm their company details and genuine email address. Some fraudsters will misuse the name of Gold Suppliers to commit fraud.

4: If the supplier insists on Western Union payment only, then choose another supplier. Serious suppliers will always offer a selection of payment methods.Western Union is not the recommended payment method for transferring money to strangers.

5. Use the company name, email address or telephone number to do a Google search. If this company's information or website is listed under different company names, it is most likely they are not serious.

6. Search the Alibaba.com Forum to find out if there is any negative feedback against this company.

I too fell in the same trap. The following company contacted me with an offer to supply to me Cellphones. I was clear in my ad and my conversations with them. They added me to their msn and chained called me to get my order and payment through western Union.


I asked for authentic Nokia E90 and Nokia N95 8gb (North American Versions) which they assured suppling to me. I sent them multiple emails to be sure that they clearly understood what we talked about on phone or chat conversations.


Sent me non working stuff and just disappeared in thin air.


The thing is, they where fakes and not what i asked. the N95 wasn't the 8gb I asked for. Non of them recognise that even the sim card is in.


ATTENTION ALIBABA TRADERS WHATCH OUT FOR THIS COMPANY OR PEOPLE

The msn girl's name is Lemon the other guys name is Jimmy Lin

western union

Address: Putian city,FuJian,China

Receiver:

(First name): Zhilin

(Last name) : Lin

Zip Code:351100

TEL:+86-13860935084


Company Name : Putian City Licheng District Aotewang Trading Limited Company
Website : http://aotewang.com
http://aotewang.en.alibaba.com
trademanager ID: cgs_aotewang1
MSN : aotewang_01@hotmail.com
TEL : 0086-0594-2590396
mobile phone :0086-13860935084




I have all evidence of money transactions, follow up communications, the emails I wrote to them after the transactions. I even called the so called company where some woman who clearly knew my names was instructing the guy on phone to say "she doesn't work here"

Quoting from [Safe Trading Admin]:

I recently joined Alibaba.com. I sent a message around saying that I was looking for clothes and I got a few replies back, and got talking to one supplier on MSN. I looked at his website, and enquired about the cost of his mobile phones - the apple iPhone was $250, so I immediately saw dollar signs in my mind! I want to buy ten phones, but I am hesitating about dealing with this supplier.

How to do your due diligence in this case:

1. If the supplier usually sells products in a completely different line, take care as you may be dealing with a fraudulent company. e.g. a clothing supplier who sells brand name mobile phones as well.

2. Always remember, if it is too good to be true, it probably is. If the price of the products are 50% lower than the normal market price, there is a chance that the products sent will be counterfeits or broken.

3: If a potential business partner claims to be an Alibaba.com Gold Supplier, use the company name they provide and find their company website on Alibaba.com. We recommend you to contact the supplier directly on Alibaba.comusing TradeManagerto

confirm their company details and genuine email address. Some fraudsters will misuse the name of Gold Suppliers to commit fraud.

4: If the supplier insists on Western Union payment only, then choose another supplier. Serious suppliers will always offer a selection of payment methods.Western Union is not the recommended payment method for transferring money to strangers.

5. Use the company name, email address or telephone number to do a Google search. If this company's information or website is listed under different company names, it is most likely they are not serious.

6. Search the Alibaba.com Forum to find out if there is any negative feedback against this company.

Here's something I don't understand.


China has the man power to persecute religious people, but they don't have the man power to stop fraud???  If China is going to persecute religious people, they need to persecute criminals JUST as vigorously!