These 2 guys are second and third people trying to use this scam on me. What they do is tell you about a product that they have that is below wholesale value for instance they have brand new laptops at the equivalent of $180 and $200. THen they chat with you for awhile in the instant message. Then when payment comes up. Instead of doing a legitimate transaction or COD with UPS or DHL, they ask you to send money to a relative and once you recieve the goods transfer the payment into their name.

This is what moneygram says about people like this:

A suggestion from a stranger that you send money to a friend or relative as a show of “good faith” because legitimate business is not conducted in this manner. They will tell you that by sending the money in the name of a friend that they will be able to collect the funds. That is not true. Con artists often use fake identification to pretend to be someone else.

https://www.emoneygram.com/eMoneyGram/moneygramFraudPrevention.do


The latest culprits that are doing this are:

Ian Anderson
MOBILE SHOP 1LIMITED
Address: 11 Murray Street, Camden London, Greater London, England, United Kingdom

Ian Anderson(20:28:56): MOBILE SHOP 1 LTD
11 MURRAY STREET, CAMDEN, LONDON
GREATER LONDON, NW1 9RE, U.K
Company No. 06240353

Tel: 447045717463
Fax: 447005808994
Email: mobileshopltd1@live.com
Yahoo: mobilesltd1@yahoo.com

Also notice their phone number it starts with 4470, which means he can set up a sham company from another country.

IF this man contacts be very careful about sending him money or doing anything on the first transaction. Make him send samples the first time cash on delivery UPS or similar company.

The way you catch a scammer:

mark oppenheim: hello
mark john: hi
mark oppenheim: can you send me your contact information
mark oppenheim: all of it
mark john: sure
mark oppenheim: thanks
mark john: MARK JOHN
WIRE UK LIMITED
Registered No. 06303402
16 CHURCHILL WAY, CARDIFF, SOUTH GLAMORGAN, CF10 2DX
MSN:computer-electronics@live.com
EMAIL:computer-electronics@live.com
TEL:+447024072015, +447045753884
mark oppenheim: are you located in England?
mark john: Yes
mark oppenheim: Is this your business address or just postal address
mark oppenheim: can you give me your england phone number?
mark oppenheim: home number
mark john: you can check up at www.ukdata.com
mark john: this is my company business address
mark oppenheim: ok can you give me your home number

Notice this guy also has a 4470 phone number

Be very careful when doing business with these peoplemark oppenheim: hello
mark john: hi
mark oppenheim: can you send me your contact information
mark oppenheim: all of it
mark john: sure
mark oppenheim: thanks
mark john: MARK JOHN
WIRE UK LIMITED
Registered No. 06303402
16 CHURCHILL WAY, CARDIFF, SOUTH GLAMORGAN, CF10 2DX
MSN:computer-electronics@live.com
EMAIL:computer-electronics@live.com
TEL:+447024072015, +447045753884
mark oppenheim: are you located in England?
mark john: Yes
mark oppenheim: Is this your business address or just postal address
mark oppenheim: can you give me your england phone number?
mark oppenheim: home number
mark john: you can check up at www.ukdata.com
mark john: this is my company business address
mark oppenheim: ok can you give me your home number

mark john: hi
mark john: little interuption
mark oppenheim: yes could you give me your home phone number
mark oppenheim: i would like to call you
mark john: 447024072015


mark oppenheim: great thanks
mark oppenheim: when will you be at home
mark john: you call now
mark oppenheim: ok thanks
mark oppenheim: dont you dial 011
mark john: yes
mark john: 011
mark john: 011447024072015
mark oppenheim: mark 4470 is not a neccissarly a england phone number
mark john: lol
mark john: says who please?
mark oppenheim: hold on

mark oppenheim: 4470 and 4487 are voip numbers to disguise your location
mark oppenheim: Some western scammers use a forwarding number or a VOIP number to disguise their location. Numbers beginning with the prefix +4470 or +4487 are forwarding numbers that are rarely used by legitimate companies and not used by Chinese either.


mark oppenheim: once again do you have a regular home phone number i can call
mark oppenheim: with an england area code
mark john: Then you are making a mistake because this is an England phone number with easier call rate
mark john: I hope you realise calls are expensive in the UK?
mark oppenheim: they are expensive everywhere
mark john: For some chinese to tell you what he or she does not know is false
mark oppenheim: this is alibaba telling me this
mark john: 87 is a regular number mind you


mark john: i thought as much
mark john: 87 is a regular number
mark john: numbers too depends on mobile network providers
mark oppenheim: also the payment method you asked me to do is not legitimate
mark oppenheim: do you have a paypal acct'
mark oppenheim: or can you send ups cod
mark john: Well if the payment method is not legitimate, then paypal too is not
mark oppenheim: ups is legitimate
mark john: If you are no more interested i would appreciate you say so
mark john: does ups shipout free?
mark oppenheim: i am interested only if you can send laptops first time ups cod
mark oppenheim: i will pay for shipping
mark john: ?
mark oppenheim: cash on delivery
mark john: Please you cn buy from the Chinese, maybe they will shipout without asking a dime from you
mark oppenheim: legitimate busineses will ship this cod
mark oppenheim: for samples
mark john: Why would i ask you tp pay moneygram in the US if you think i was not going to shipout
mark john: Would i fly down to the US?
mark oppenheim: people who ask to pay through a friend are trying to hide their identity
mark oppenheim: moneygram discourages people from doing businesss this way
mark john: thanks for the initial inquiry
mark john: maybe some other time
mark john: if i did why will i want to give you some ID?
mark john: I advice you call off the order
mark oppenheim: suggestion from a stranger that you send money to a friend or relative as a show of “good faith” because legitimate business is not conducted in this manner. They will tell you that by sending the money in the name of a friend that they will be able to collect the funds. That is not true. Con artists often use fake identification to pretend to be someone else.
mark oppenheim(Request Read Receipt): I am calling the order off
mark oppenheim(Request Read Receipt): i am going to find companies that have better business practices
mark oppenheim: this came direclty off of moneygrams website
mark oppenheim: https://www.emoneygram.com/eMoneyGram/moneygramFraudPrevention.do
mark oppenheim: you need to come up with better business practices to initially start your trading with someone
mark oppenheim: goodbye
mark john: DOES THIS HAPPEN IN THE USA?
mark john: ?
mark john(Confirm receipt): I am calling the order off
mark john(Confirm receipt): i am going to find companies that have better business practices
mark john: Please yourself
mark john: bye too

Replying to [thezenmethod]:This person has sent me numerous emails. You should also be carefull of the emails from africa. peteb

how can i trust about any company without business unknow
can I make all my business by COD system
I shared Mr. H.A.Bakar
in atrade company inPortsaid -Egypt box42111
wallymotors@yahoo.com

Replying to [thezenmethod]:i have the same experience with PIONEERS cd players,the fact is that scamms are everywhere,did anybody finally help us;the gold suppliers+credit+etc....finally is something that everyone can get it,like a buyer+import i say that we (buyers) must find a better way for safety transactions.

Replying to [thezenmethod]:

THe only way to avoid this on the first order, order a sample from the supplier. Then make sure it is cash on delivery from a reputable shipper. If the supplier is not willing to do this then you know there is something wrong. He is either trying to hide his identity or his company is not real. To verify their identity: Also ask him for personal information that you can verify. His/Her Home address and phone number to start or have him fax his drivers license information.

Replying to [thezenmethod]:

I can't believe it! It happen on me too!!!He claimed his name is Ian Hoblin, from Nokia UK Holdings Ltd, and gave me a website of his registered company, www.ukdata.com. His phone number is +447045764444. He has conned me US$3500 for the phones i'd ordered. He gave me a tracking code from this website www.despatch-express.com, which turn out to be a scam website. Check it out at http://db.aa419.org/fakebanksview.php?key=21220
After few days of ignoring his calls for the 3rd payment, YES 3RD PAYMENT, with those excuses, he had me paid him twice. ANd he threaten if i don't pay US$800 to him, the order will be on hold. Christ! I had paid him US$3500, and he still asked me for US$800!

Anyway, i have sent all the emails with his I.P addresses that can traced where he was sending the emails from, to www.econsumer.gov. Anyone who is being scammed can report it to this website. I ws going to delete his email until i found this websites. www.econsumer.gov has replied me asking for the emails that he had sent to me, and they are very confident that they cantraced him via his email i.p address and the phones number he is using. I have also contacted Western Union for co-operation. They can trace where the money was taken from, either at the branch or online.

To everyone who has been scammed, please don't give up. There will be a justice. Don't juz let them get away from this. They should pay bck wat they had done.

Replying to [thezenmethod]: DUDE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!! YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SEND THE CHINESE 2000US YOU ARE SENDING THEM THE EQUIVALENT OF 14,500 RMB THAT IS ENOUGH FOR 14,500 KGS OF RICE!!! WHEN YOU SEND THEM MORE LIKE 7000US THAT's 51,000 RMB ALMOST ENOUGH TO RETIRE ON!!! NO WONDER PEOPLE GET SCAMMED

Replying to [thezenmethod]:
Hello Worldwide

I Buy My Nokia N95 8G B and Iphone Sucessfull From MOBILE SHOP 1 LIMITED last week ago!!!!!!! this is how the manager process the deal to me: He first of All Send me the Shipment Receipt/Tracking number, and as soon as i confirm the Shipment online, then i send money to him with Westo Union, so i receive the goods a week ago. You can contc at them and make safe deal!

He's still at it. He's got a new Websight with a yahoo domain. It's a paid yahoo small business server this time.



http://www.mworldlimited.com



sales@mworldlimited.com


info@mworldlimited.com


mobileworldltd2008@hotmail.com


mworldlimited@yahoo.com


support@mworldlimited.com



If you come accross any of these e-mails in your trades DON't TRUST THEM. it's him still scamming away from Nigeria. In some of his spams he claims to be in Texas while others he claims to be in the UK. His IP details always show that he is hiding his location behind a proxy.

This is his IP Info. It's a very well know 419 internet cafe in


 Victoria Island, Lagos, Nigeria



support@mworldlimited.com


% This is the AfriNIC Whois server.


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% Information related to '41.219.192.0 - 41.219.192.255'


inetnum: 41.219.192.0 - 41.219.192.255

netname: ORG-SA57-AFRINIC-20050513

descr: Assigned to Lagos dial-pool customers

country: NG

admin-c: NS4-AFRINIC

tech-c: CM9-AFRINIC

status: Assigned PA

mnt-by: STARCOMMS-MNT

mnt-lower: STARCOMMS-MNT

source: AFRINIC # Filtered

parent: 41.219.192.0 - 41.219.255.255


person: NAVNEET SINGH

address: Plot 1261, Bishop Kale Close, off Saka Tinubu

address: Victoria Island, Lagos, Nigeria

phone: +234-1-804-9370

fax-no: +234-1-811-0301

e-mail: ********@starcomms.com

nic-hdl: NS4-AFRINIC

source: AFRINIC # Filtered


person: Catalin Miclaus

address: Plot 1261C, Bishop Kale Close, off Saka Tinubu

phone: +234-7028000733

fax-no: +234-1-8110301

e-mail: *******@starcomms.com

nic-hdl: CM9-AFRINIC

source: AFRINIC # Filtered