This is how the mind of a Chinese Scammer works ...
Post 32 of 39
oh, my gold, every friends so may complains to that company.
In my eyes, they are all trustable if they are gold member, hahahah
I am a new seller, hehe
and new here, welcome you can make a friend with me.
after all, almost companies are trustable here.
haha
best wishes
sophia zhou
08 Jun 2009 17:37
Post 33 of 39
Alibaba needs to perform better due diligence on Gold Suppliers, about 8 out of 10 companies that have contacted us for large orders are scammers. Yes, I said 8 out
of 10 companies and these are listed in good standing, but after due diligence, something is missing, like money, no registration for impor\export, no factory, no general counsel or company, no website, etc.
I am not a Gold Supplier because I choose not to be at this time. I have a website, info is posted since we are government supplier in the US and the background needed for this is extensive.
of 10 companies and these are listed in good standing, but after due diligence, something is missing, like money, no registration for impor\export, no factory, no general counsel or company, no website, etc.
I am not a Gold Supplier because I choose not to be at this time. I have a website, info is posted since we are government supplier in the US and the background needed for this is extensive.
29 Jun 2009 05:14
Post 34 of 39
The answer is simple, dont deal with scammers full stop. If you cant pick a scammer or know what one looks like, you shouldnt be doing business.
14 Aug 2009 18:16
Post 35 of 39
Know Thine Enemy
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
Sun Tzu.
Thank you for quoting this very insightful commentary into the mind of a scammer Aussie. No doubt all scammers minds operate on a similar level quite apart from how long their ancestors stared at the heavens or wrote on cave walls.
What stood out to me was this gentleman's sense of entitlement. He felt no compunction about deceiving people.. or maybe he did. Central to his monologue was the self-justification that he was actually helping his victims by teaching them a cheap lesson. Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much.
It is also very interesting to me that he went public with this information. Perhaps he had been scamming thing for too long. He was bored with the lack of competition and laying down a different sort of challenge.
His suggestion that Chinese were a superior race was a barb deliberately targetting white guys. Either he didn't want to get himself offside with his fellow Chinese or he was specifically hoping for a white guy/s to take up his challenge.
Have you ever heard someone say "I am a smoker and happy about the fact?" Of course they are not.They are deeply entrenched in this behaviour pattern and completely lost in terms of turning it around. These type of assertions are a plea to anybody within earshot to bring any type of energy into their situation so that they might begin unravelling it.
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
Sun Tzu.
Thank you for quoting this very insightful commentary into the mind of a scammer Aussie. No doubt all scammers minds operate on a similar level quite apart from how long their ancestors stared at the heavens or wrote on cave walls.
What stood out to me was this gentleman's sense of entitlement. He felt no compunction about deceiving people.. or maybe he did. Central to his monologue was the self-justification that he was actually helping his victims by teaching them a cheap lesson. Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much.
It is also very interesting to me that he went public with this information. Perhaps he had been scamming thing for too long. He was bored with the lack of competition and laying down a different sort of challenge.
His suggestion that Chinese were a superior race was a barb deliberately targetting white guys. Either he didn't want to get himself offside with his fellow Chinese or he was specifically hoping for a white guy/s to take up his challenge.
Have you ever heard someone say "I am a smoker and happy about the fact?" Of course they are not.They are deeply entrenched in this behaviour pattern and completely lost in terms of turning it around. These type of assertions are a plea to anybody within earshot to bring any type of energy into their situation so that they might begin unravelling it.
29 Sep 2009 05:26
Post 36 of 39
Know Thine Enemy ctd
If anybody does take up the challenge they are entirely dismissive. Remember the guy in the tax department who refused to own up to his oversight just so you would beg. These people are so underpowered that it doesn't matter if they are in the wrong.. it makes them feel powerful to hold something over someone.
It is an artificial high. Any addict knows that there will come a time when he is going to have to face reality. The scammers anxiety rush is so euphoric that the thought of a mundane day to day existence of doing the right thing by themselves as well as their neighbour is very frightening. The other problem is that the first hit is the best and then it is all downhill.
Perhaps this is why alibaba is reluctant to "cold turkey" his 40 thieves. Rightly or wrongly scamming is not just a livelihood but a habit for them and they need a little time and help to overcome it.
It is worth noting that the man who wrote the greatest treatise ever on war was against it. The underlying principle is that by simply being prepared to outwait your enemy you never need to fight them. If you truly know your enemy as yourself you will know that the real enemy is the scammer inside of you.
So why not begin the process by looking for something positive about our self-proclaimed scammer friend. I couldn't help being impressed by his little spoonerism.. "scambugs".. not bad.. or was that (in a Freudian sense) a Chinese misconstrual of an American idiom referring to condoms? Either way I got a laugh out of it.
If anybody does take up the challenge they are entirely dismissive. Remember the guy in the tax department who refused to own up to his oversight just so you would beg. These people are so underpowered that it doesn't matter if they are in the wrong.. it makes them feel powerful to hold something over someone.
It is an artificial high. Any addict knows that there will come a time when he is going to have to face reality. The scammers anxiety rush is so euphoric that the thought of a mundane day to day existence of doing the right thing by themselves as well as their neighbour is very frightening. The other problem is that the first hit is the best and then it is all downhill.
Perhaps this is why alibaba is reluctant to "cold turkey" his 40 thieves. Rightly or wrongly scamming is not just a livelihood but a habit for them and they need a little time and help to overcome it.
It is worth noting that the man who wrote the greatest treatise ever on war was against it. The underlying principle is that by simply being prepared to outwait your enemy you never need to fight them. If you truly know your enemy as yourself you will know that the real enemy is the scammer inside of you.
So why not begin the process by looking for something positive about our self-proclaimed scammer friend. I couldn't help being impressed by his little spoonerism.. "scambugs".. not bad.. or was that (in a Freudian sense) a Chinese misconstrual of an American idiom referring to condoms? Either way I got a laugh out of it.
29 Sep 2009 05:30
Post 37 of 39
You can even attempt to get a copy of the business registration, and still get screwed. Don't give any of your money to Hong kong Yisheng Trading Company, www.88export.com. You would do better giving your money to a "sexual partner for hire", at least she'll give you a sexually transmitted disease.
29 Sep 2009 12:38
Post 38 of 39
edglimited wrote:The answer is simple, dont deal with scammers full stop. If you cant pick a scammer or know what one looks like, you shouldnt be doing business.
I pretty agree with what edglimited said.
before doing business, we should learn to be a careful business man.
I am new, and I always scare to meet with the scam buyers, well, there are more people doing real business. So, be confident and be grateful to those who trust you and help you in the business life.
18 Nov 2009 00:04
Post 39 of 39
if you need to verify a manufacturer from mainland China,whether a company is legitimate and reputable, i have a sourcing agent located in Shanghai feel free to contact for details
19 Nov 2009 23:31