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I think you loco, you pay T.T up front
Fraud Case Study 18 - Western Union payment Fraud [Article]
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13 Nov 2007 04:53
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I would like to request to know: is there any sales escrow? A form of payment wherein the money will be in the custody of the transfer agency and will not be release not until the buyer give them a go sign or the seller prove that the item is properly sent out and the customer is satisfied, is there such an organization to handle this?

22 Nov 2007 17:33
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got it.
25 Nov 2007 18:31
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Replying to [Safe Trading Admin]: There is no sales escrow, both parties must make an escrow joint account QQ AND, so any two parties, not any one party, can signature to withdraw money. Sometimes the bank can facilitate any two, any three, up to any 25 parties, to be signatory of the account.
25 Nov 2007 19:41
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Replying to [Safe Trading Admin]:[em14]I have put on ALIBABA an
inquiry about mobile phones;I have receivred more then 100 offerts and I have make step by step a selection until I reach at a final supplier
Everything was O.K.until I have asked him to send me a pro forma invoice and a count where to send the money.He answer me that because is a very small order(about2400$) the payment should be made by WESTERN UNION and he give me a name for whom to send the money
I have told him that I need the count of the export company but he told me that this is payment method for the summe less then 20000$
This is the moment when I stop even if the offert was good but not far of other
27 Nov 2007 01:58
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How I know from my experiences Western Union never gave money to the people if they do not have money transfer number.
This number you can give just to the person after you receive the product.
My experiences sending money to Europe and in USA .
They very strict with rules. Western Union service people asking for money transfer number and ID , without this you will not get money.
Why need to call the person who receiving money to tell the transfer number.
Of course maybe somewhere exceptions to this rule , what I don't know about it.[em15][em13]
27 Nov 2007 10:52
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Replying to [Safe Trading Admin]: I have been offered a very similar case. My seller said that I can pay half now and half when the goods arrive. He suggested that the first half be paid to Western Union in his name, with the wrong country, so that he cannot collect, then change the country after shipment. The problem is, he is not actually in the claimed country at all and therefore my first payment would be cashed and away he goes.

Oh, where are the honest traders!?!

I only want to buy good products at market price from people like me!!!![em6][em8][em8]
04 Dec 2007 12:53
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I have had simlar problems, we didnot give the persons name and only part of mtcn number.
once they sent tracking numbers we would send rest of number, but three days later no tracking numbers and the money had been picked up.

yes where are all the legitimate traders, even gold, pro trade, taustpass what ever you want to call it they all want western union etc.

I am shure somthing can be done about this, even if alibaba or ec21 had somthing in place to deal with payments.
07 Dec 2007 06:57
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Replying to [Safe Trading Admin]:
How I know from my experiences Western Union never gave money to the people if they do not have money transfer number.
This number you can give just to the person after you receive the product.
My experiences sending money to Europe and in USA .
They very strict with rules. Western Union service people asking for money transfer number and ID , without this you will not get money.
Why need to call the person who receiving money to tell the transfer number.
Of course maybe somewhere exceptions to this rule , what I don't know about it.
21 Dec 2007 00:55
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Never do business with ye meimei or Fuzhou Shionhao Trade Co., Ltd.. They are a scam there company promised me goods. I paid western union and never got the goods. I warn yo never do buisness with this company they are a fraud. Even though they have the trust pass and have been in for 2 years they are a fraud.
22 Dec 2007 17:06
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thieves, fake http://fjkaishun.en.alibaba.com , http://www.kshoestrade.com [em5]
10 Jan 2008 05:55
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