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Fraud Case Studies 13 - Be cautious of business impostor [Article]
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Replying to [Admin]:It shock me and our colleagues very much! How could the supplier do that!
Fraud Case Studies 13 - Be cautious of business impostor [Article]
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19 Oct 2007 23:25
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Replying to [Admin]: If they accept L/C only, chances increases that they could be a real businessmen.
02 Dec 2007 05:44
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thieves, fake http://fjkaishun.en.alibaba.com , http://www.kshoestrade.com
me this firm robbed of 1770USD!!! Sent old used functionless laptop!!! Give at it heed!!! [em5]
10 Jan 2008 05:58
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Replying to [Admin]:
And be aware of those who ask for your contact and bank details. I have been contacted by many imposters promising my company coimex incentatives. When I checked with claimed company and registration officials, it was found that these people were operating from Nigeria and Hong Kong. So be aware.
11 Jan 2008 03:46
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Replying to [Admin]:DearSirs,

Iam pretty dissapointed with this web page.
I have tried to do 4 operations and ALL were fake.
1-I tried to import blank cds, when I pay them the exporter disapearLucky of me that with our ambassador in Bulgary we have the money back.
2,3,4: We offer one of the most important rice stocks ofsouth america, to 3 people who wanted to buyed.
We sent 3 samples, and all companies are FAKE.

So as company we decided to not use anymore this web page, because we have not trust in nobody here.
Sorry for mny words, but I like tosay my problems here.

Best regards
Omar
04 Mar 2008 16:38
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Replying to [Admin]: im a victim myself. Send money thru T/T USD 300, but till today i still dnt receive my orders. Indonesian company not sure if i can trust them again. PT Kimax Stroller i've no idea what's your problem, a few emails being send nicely in polite way but still no reply. Until today im still waiting at my doorstep for my item to reach me in save condition. I just started in Business and opening my shop in a week time. Spend alot of money paying for items but this one dosen't reach me. What should i do know?[em8][em6]
04 Mar 2008 22:31
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Why don't you choose our service to avoid fraud? The services we provide inclue : 1. Supplier search    2. Trade negotiations    3. Goods inspection    4. Compensation claims. All are cost-free for the registered members of our website: www.sunbyo.com , come to join us now!  you will never meet with the fraud cases from now on.

01 Apr 2008 11:04
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Dear Sirs,

We contacted the company

Yongkang Yixin Industrial & Trade Co. Ltd.

Alibaba link: http://yxgm.en.alibaba.com/

Which is recommend by you as being a Gold Supplier.

Now, we strongly recommend you not to mention suppliers as Gold Suppliers when these people carry e very shameful business contact.  In fact, our Mr. D’Acci flew to Yiwu to meet them and they fixed an appointment today.

But they cancelled the appointment at the last minute.

Positive i your action, regards

Angela D'Acci

06 Apr 2008 02:52
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The fraud problem goes both ways [em14]

I am always looking for good suppliers, and I am willing to consider  manufacturers from all countries in the world. But 8 out of 10 Asian businesses  posing to be manufacturers of the goods I want, are private individuals with no legal business, while in some countries most real suppliers just will not meet good business standards.


All suppliers in China want to sell large quantities even for the first order and all want payment upfront. Many manufacturers don´t bother sending samples and often do not even have an export license themselves. You have to trade with middleman if you want their goods. That middleman often has an email address like Bigfactory@Yahoo.com.cn even if the factory has its own website and email addresses. None of them can write a good English business letter. Most have great difficulty in writing the proforma invoice. Many fail to understand why you even want a delivery address in the invoice.


Ordering a first sample order is a drag. All Chinese businesses want you to start with a larger number of goods, most want  100% TT upfront,  the goods often do not meet specification,  accurate invoicing and orderhandling is a problem.


When real businesses handle their business contacts this way, how can you know who is a fraud and who is just unable to meet business standards?[em23]


No matter what country I import the goods from, I never buy stock without testing a small quantity of samples first. I do not deal with middlemen that do not reply  the emails to the real manufacturer, or do not have an export license, will not send an invoice with specification of the goods, payment and delivery conditions.

But still you can never be sure, before you have the samples in home and tested.

So I preferably import with payment after delivery. When I have the goods I am willing to pay into any account, business or personal, whatever the bank of choice. In fact, this is the only secure way of importing goods.


[em24]

21 Apr 2008 23:56
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Quoting from [Admin]:

Case Description:
 
I received a call from a man saying they have agents around the world and have seen our company on Alibaba. He said that we have the kind of products their customers are looking for. They sent me all the information about their business by fax and asked for 7% commission for their services. They then sent me a letter by mail with a printed letterhead containing the same info asking me to send a free sample and a deposit of about £790 to them so that they could show it to their big customers.
 
I paid a UK bank to do a background check of this company. The bank report indicated that the company was legitimate. I also searched the internet for information and found nothing suspicious. I felt safe, so I sent a total of £1000 (deposit and sample costs) to them by T/T. They always claimed their customers were going to place a big order with us sooner or later; however, we still haven’t received an order and they can no longer be contacted.
 
Case Analysis:
 
1)      Beware of scammers who use the name of a real company to conduct fraud on the Internet. Scammers will pretend to be an agent or branch of a real registered company to convince you that they are serious. Don’t blindly rely on a Bank report. 
 
2)      Check their background information using your own due diligence. Go to local government or state websites to locate this company and then compare it with their contact information. If the company’s registered contact information is different from the information they have provided you, be extremely cautious. It is always necessary for you to contact the real company for further verification. For verification of UK companies, the following government website can help to locate registered companies’ information:
  http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk//index.shtml
 
3)      Never send payment upfront. In this case, it is strange that the supplier was requested to send payment before getting orders from the agent. Scammers know that suppliers are desperate to establish good and long-term relationships with big buyers. This allows them to make unreasonable requests, such as upfront payment. Please be vigilant if you encounter similar requests.


Everyone post to be manufacturer. As a general rule manufacturer don't deal with small order only trading company or wholesaler would. Go visit the factory and they will give you plenty of excuse why it's not convenient. Even if you go to the factory see what your supplier are doing there see if they can freely move about sit in certain area. Real owners can do thing other imposter can not.
01 Jun 2008 21:25
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Quoting from [Admin]:

Case Description:
 
I received a call from a man saying they have agents around the world and have seen our company on Alibaba. He said that we have the kind of products their customers are looking for. They sent me all the information about their business by fax and asked for 7% commission for their services. They then sent me a letter by mail with a printed letterhead containing the same info asking me to send a free sample and a deposit of about £790 to them so that they could show it to their big customers.
 
I paid a UK bank to do a background check of this company. The bank report indicated that the company was legitimate. I also searched the internet for information and found nothing suspicious. I felt safe, so I sent a total of £1000 (deposit and sample costs) to them by T/T. They always claimed their customers were going to place a big order with us sooner or later; however, we still haven’t received an order and they can no longer be contacted.
 
Case Analysis:
 
 
 
2)      Check their background information using your own due diligence. Go to local government or state websites to locate this company and then compare it with their contact information. If the company’s registered contact information is different from the information they have provided you, be extremely cautious. It is always necessary for you to contact the real company for further verification. For verification of UK companies, the following government website can help to locate registered companies’ information:
  http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk//index.shtml
 
3)      Never send payment upfront. In this case, it is strange that the supplier was requested to send payment before getting orders from the agent. Scammers know that suppliers are desperate to establish good and long-term relationships with big buyers. This allows them to make unreasonable requests, such as upfront payment. Please be vigilant if you encounter similar requests.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hello,
This is the complaint against a Gold Supplier for stealing my Money?

Fraud, Etc..
The company name is:

(name of the thief)

   Helen Yuan
Everest Digital Technology Co., Ltd.
Gold Supplier in Alibaba
http://Everest.En.Alibaba.com
http://Everest.En.Alibaba.com
They stole $940.00 from me for samples, by sending me crap I did not order. She claims the shipping company sent the wrong order, yeah and I'm really stupid.


When I asked her to take back the phones, she insisted I sell them to get my money back. The are not worth $400.00 retail, a real stupid scam.
But she cheated me. After a lot of complaining and sending about 300 annoying emails to her, she wants me to  send the crap back to her, which leaves me with zero. I would not trust sending her nothing.
 
If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. It is amazing how many scammers are on Alibaba. Real sad.
 
Can I post the complaint against them on your site or theirs.
Thank You,

Michael

15 Jun 2008 21:45
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