This is the conversation that I have with a "MR. TERRY NEWTON" a very active scammer in Alibaba


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terrynewton1996: hello
nhan nguyen: Hello, How may I help you?
terrynewton1996: how are youi doing today?
nhan nguyen: very good and you
terrynewton1996: great
nhan nguyen: Now, what can I help you with?
terrynewton1996: i would like to state here that we have a business proposal that can benefit us both mutually.
nhan nguyen: How?
terrynewton1996: I am Terry Newton of Winsor and Newton Tour
nhan nguyen: And?
terrynewton1996: Mr Terry Newton(Executive director)
Winsornewton Ltd
Unit 25, Bourne End Mills Upper Bourne End Lane,
Hemel Hempstead,London,.UK
Tel: +447024063765
Fax: +448704794459
Website: www.winsornewton.com
terrynewton1996: Our motive is to start off from collections of outstanding accounts owed by various customers/companies willing to make out payments now
terrynewton1996: we wantyoutobe our agent
nhan nguyen: oh I see
terrynewton1996: A remuneration can be worked out for your services as our overseas representative.You are entitled to a 10% commisssion for any successful collection you make on our company's behalf
nhan nguyen: what do I have to do?
terrynewton1996: we have payment ranges from $75,000 and above
nhan nguyen: so?
terrynewton1996: upon the recipt that you have to be endorsed as our agent
nhan nguyen: Why can't you use regular collection agency?
terrynewton1996: you have to get our agency agreement signed and send it back tous based on your commission
terrynewton1996: it do not really matter
terrynewton1996: any body can act as an agent
terrynewton1996: okay
nhan nguyen: Oh I see
terrynewton1996: we can get it ready for you so that you can be endorsed as our agent
terrynewton1996: all we need to get it ready foryou is your
nhan nguyen: I only act as an agent for collection, if I can get more than 25% on collecting amount
terrynewton1996: we can offer 10% for the start and the next collection will be 15%
nhan nguyen: That is not good enough, most collection agency here get from 25 to 30 % on the amount
nhan nguyen: plus you have to pay 500 USD to sign up with us for legal fee before we can act on your behalf
terrynewton1996: you do not have to do much
nhan nguyen: My time is very expensive
terrynewton1996: all you have to do forme is just to make call
terrynewton1996: they promise to make out payment to you
nhan nguyen: yes and it cost time
terrynewton1996: it will not take any of your business time
nhan nguyen: so unless I get what I want I dont do thing so easy
terrynewton1996: once or twice calling is okay
nhan nguyen: You not understand, as a collection agent I have to call and make people pay, also I have to take them to court if I have too
nhan nguyen: so I will get 25% of the amount, and a one time $500 fee for you to sign up with us
nhan nguyen: are you still with me?
terrynewton1996: i just contacted our client and they promise to make out payment toyou
nhan nguyen: Like I said, first you have to paid us the Legal fee for us to process you company as our client. Then we keep 25% of the collection amount and pay to you the rest that we collect.
nhan nguyen: we also hold the payment for minimum of 30 days for it to clear the bank before we make payment out to you.
nhan nguyen: are you still interest in hire us as you collection agent?
nhan nguyen: I guess you are not interest any more are you?
terrynewton1996: we only offer 10%
nhan nguyen: 20% and I work for you
terrynewton1996: we last we can offer is 15%
nhan nguyen: No, 20% is the lowest we work for collection
nhan nguyen: that help cover our legal cost of bring some one to court
terrynewton1996: you do not have to do that
nhan nguyen: How do you know
terrynewton1996: they have never refuse to payment
terrynewton1996: and they arewilly tomake payment now
nhan nguyen: It normal for us to take people to court here to collect money from them
nhan nguyen: then what stop them to make payment directly to you?
terrynewton1996: they funds are needed in the USA
nhan nguyen: what do you mean by their fund needed in USA?
terrynewton1996: we want to set up a mini mart in the state
nhan nguyen: I see
nhan nguyen: you mean like a franchise of mini mark?
terrynewton1996: yes
terrynewton1996: we can get our agency agreement ready foryou now
nhan nguyen: ok, I see. Before we go any futher, you will have to pay us the legal processing fee for us to do the paper work and make you a client of our company
terrynewton1996: okay
terrynewton1996: you need to getour agency agreement signed and send itback to us now
terrynewton1996: based on your commission
nhan nguyen: First you have to send a $500 legal fee for us to process your company
nhan nguyen: do you still want to do it?
terrynewton1996: you have to be endorsed as our agent first
nhan nguyen: Thing don't work that way in US
terrynewton1996: ok
nhan nguyen: every thing have to be legal here
terrynewton1996: ok
nhan nguyen: so do you want to pay the legal fee or not?
terrynewton1996: not
nhan nguyen: then there no point of talking, and one bit of advice
terrynewton1996: ok
terrynewton1996: i willlook for someone else
nhan nguyen: your scam don't work, GET A REAL JOB

Replying to [partsman]:
He tried me too.



Winsor Newton: hello
Eric Stevens: hi
Eric Stevens: how are you
Winsor Newton: how are you doingtoday?
Winsor Newton: great
Winsor Newton: and you
Eric Stevens: im fine
Eric Stevens: can i talk to you in about 30 minutes?
Winsor Newton: ok
Winsor Newton: I am terry newton of winsor tour
Winsor Newton: Mr Terry Newton(Executive director)
Winsornewton Ltd
Unit 25, Bourne End Mills Upper Bourne End Lane,
Hemel Hempstead,London,.UK
Tel: +447024063765
Cell: +447011136309
Fax: +448704794459
Website: www.winsornewton.com

Winsor Newton: i would like to state here that we have a business proposal that can benefit us both mutually
Winsor Newton: are you there?
Eric Stevens: CAN YOU READ
Eric Stevens: I SAID LET ME CONTACT YOU IN 30 MINUTES
Eric Stevens: DONT BE RUDE
Eric Stevens: WAIT
Winsor Newton: sorry
Winsor Newton: okay
Winsor Newton: hello
Winsor Newton: are you still there?
Eric Stevens: hi
Eric Stevens: ok how can i help you
Eric Stevens: what do you like to buy.
Winsor Newton: Our motive is to start off from collections of outstanding accounts owed by various customers/companies willing to make out payments now
Winsor Newton: we want you to be our agent
Eric Stevens: Why
Winsor Newton: A remuneration can be worked out for your services as our overseas representative.You are entitled to a 10% commisssion for any successful collection you make on our company's behalf
Winsor Newton: our customer willbe making out payment to you in the tune of $76,000
Winsor Newton: upon the receipt that you have to be endorsed as our agent
Eric Stevens: how do you get the money
Winsor Newton: instruction will be given to you from our accounting department as soon as the funds is made available to you
Eric Stevens: what company are you
Winsor Newton: upon the receipt that you have to be endorsed as our agent
Eric Stevens: What company are you
Winsor Newton: Mr Terry Newton(Executive director)
Winsornewton Ltd
Unit 25, Bourne End Mills Upper Bourne End Lane,
Hemel Hempstead,London,.UK
Tel: +447024063765
Cell: +447011136309
Fax: +448704794459
Website: www.winsornewton.com

Eric Stevens: What do you sell that you let people owe you that much money.
Winsor Newton: we sell to some of our customer based on agreement
Eric Stevens: What do you agree to sell to them
Winsor Newton: they are our major distributor of our product
Eric Stevens: What product??????
Winsor Newton: we deal on paint ,art and craft company
Winsor Newton: we are a manaufacturing company
Eric Stevens: where are you located
Eric Stevens: and what is your contact email address
Winsor Newton: we based in uk
Eric Stevens: and why are you wrking at midnight
Winsor Newton: i am at home trying to get some document in place
Eric Stevens: k id like you to send me an email
Eric Stevens: and what is your msn?
Eric Stevens: What happpend to you
Eric Stevens: you got quite
Eric Stevens: quiet
Eric Stevens: darn i need the money
Eric Stevens: how fast can i get the first payment

Replying to [Runner]:He is so dumb of a scammer that I love to lead him on a dance. He have not learn that the scam is not working. But that good for us.

Be aware of this scam. I've personally contacted the LEGAL company involved into this and here is the answer i got. I think this will help many others:

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The approach that you have received from "Mr. Terry Newton" is a scam. He is not known to our company except for reports that we have been receiving regarding his attempts to scam money from people in the wire transfer fraud scheme. He has no connection to our company, nor do we solicit help with collections in this way. We have our own companies in the USA and many other countries handling all our sales, marketing, invoicing, and collections within their particular markets. And certainly we have our own email domains.

Unfortunately we have no control over the misrepresentation of our name or Company, but we are taking steps with the FBI here in the United States to try to stop Mr. Newton's activities before someone loses money, and before our name is bought into disrepute. We have also reported his activities to Alibaba, who has suspended several of his accounts. You may want to file a complaint with them as well.

Thank you very much for notifying us regarding your approach from Terry Newton; it is very helpful to be able to add to the file. You may forward any further information, transcripts of conversations or copies of checks, to my attention for addition to the FBI complaint

Lynn Pearl

Senior Manager, Product Marketing & Technical Services

ColArt Americas, Inc.

PO Box 1396

Piscataway, NJ 08855

732-562-0770

Replying to [partsman]:

Thanks for the posting ... praise google search!!

Replying to [partsman]:
please report this to www.stopscammers.co.uk takes just secs and will help others.

Replying to [Runner]:Money must be earned, people don`t give it away.
Some people think otherwise and will be cheated.