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Any countries in Africa are really trustworthy?
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There is a lot of bad talk about Nigeria and scams –are there any countries in Africa which are really trustworthy?
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16 Oct 2006 19:27
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Replying to [Admin]:Very franckly and accoridng to our expereince the only way to valid trustee firms it's to proceed, on classic export bases and claims all normal data & processing about the purchaser firms such as registration number, bank cooridnate and translit to export isuracne coversheet !
And furtehrmore never send goods or maony before to get your bank legal ocn,ifrmaiton as thye use wrong TT, fraud cheques , fraud Credit card payment and others !!
But unfortunately and trough ALIABA mainly, we loose to much time & seriousness from 99 % of AFRICAN contacts whihc are not TRUSTEE MEMBERS and it's a pity cause we loose trust in thes part of world business so I suggest that ALIBABA claim from AFRICAN firms to be registered on ALIBABA to become prior a TRUSTEE member cause we loose to much time and energy with main contacts which are only based on fraud approach and on final statment this is AFRICA which suffer of some few and ususal fraud epople
08 Nov 2006 01:43
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If they are accept L/C and escrow i will go trade with them. Why Not? Scammers are everywhere but The truth Seller are everywhere too. Just be ware and becarefull
08 Nov 2006 06:11
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Replying to [Admin]:On the topic of selling to Africian nations. There is with out a doubt that Nigeria is full of scams. Even on this site I have received them. But on the other hand if we live to think all are alike then we become like them. We sometimes have to do more in the dept of due diligence and to also expert they will do the same. My company requires that all (even american) put a deposit of 20% down before the product is made for them. This covers the cost of in the event we lose out. What gets me is when they want to buy the products without ever seeing what it is. Now at that point I know its scam time.
08 Nov 2006 16:22
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Replying to [Admin]:Have you put this out as an article. This was very helpful. I read some articles on due dilligence and such, but this made things come clear.

Thanks
08 Nov 2006 17:45
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Replying to [Admin]:There are sufficient systems in place to ensure fair trade with any country. For eg. documentary credit, advance payment ensure that both parties to a business transaction are safe. One needs to access the risk and decide on payment terms accordingly.
09 Nov 2006 01:29
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THE ANSWER IS YES. WE are dealing with africa for past 10yrs. Mainly Nigeria, South Africa. Many may get shock that we are dealing with Nigeria. A country is not fraud, its the people who are fraud. As such, you may find frauds in any country. We get our confirmed LC thru citibank singapore from Nigeria. We export container load cargo every quarterly past 5 yrs very actively namely.
As for South Africa, we have good paymasters who TT upfront 100%. As such, Africa in our eyes is trustworthy. They are crooks over there, but it needs sharp eyes and nose to sniff them out. Thats trading. Good luck you guys
09 Nov 2006 01:52
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Replying to [Admin]: concerning my experience I can tell countries like Lybia or Egypt are normally trustworthy. I cannot tell the same concerning country like Nigeria or Uganda where the company want to pay only by cheques. If a company pay you by cheque (generally are third-party cheques), first try to contact the name in the header and ask them if they have really wrote the cheque. Someone answer you, some other not. If you don't receive answers, you can try to deposit it in your account (but third-party cheques from "Ministry of...", "Parish of...", or someting else normally are counterfeit), but if result not payable you have to pay the costs claimed from your and other bank.
10 Nov 2006 09:40
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Replying to [Admin]: "NO"
11 Nov 2006 13:02
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Replying to [Admin]:dear Adm i read with amazement as to whether any countries in africa are trust worthy.More than half the clients we ship for are from the continent . there are legit business persons as there are dishonest folks elsewhere.what we do is check the credentials of the companies we deal with.We have had some mishaps but it would be a gross misrepresentation of facts
to say there are no trust worthy countries .the probability of getting cheated remains half ,as is the world over with other clients.
The answer is Yes , there is business in Africa.
12 Nov 2006 01:43
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I am sending one example of fraud, we have talk about business for 1 week first email than phone calls. A lot of people is in these.

FROM: NATIONAL AGENCY FOR WEST AFRICAN DEVELOPEMENT (NAFWAD). NO.12
RUE DE COMMERCE AVENUE GRAND CEMINARY. BP 23393 KARA-TOGO WEST-AFRICA.



WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE GOOD RECEIPT OF YOUR EMAIL MESSAGE INCLUDING THE FORWARDED PROFOMA INVOICE ALONG WITH YOUR BANK INFORMATION IN OUR OFFICE DATED 10th 11 006 CONFIRMING THE TOTAL SUM OF USD6,500,002,96 DOLLARS,(SIX MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND TWO DOLLARS NINETY SIX SCENTS) ONLY TO BE THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE FURNITURES.
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THEREFORE,IT IS OUR PLEASURE TO ANNOUNCE TO YOU THAT YOUR PROFORMA INVOICE HAS BEEN ACCEPTED AND APPROVED IN OUR OFFICE WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT BOARD FOR YOU TO BE THE CONTRACTOR/SUPPLIER OF THE FURNITURES SO FIND THE APPROVED ATTACHMENT PROFORMA BELLOW,AND YOUR CONTRACT FILE NUMBER IS:RTWAC58X24TRXBCT5.


MEANWHILE, ALL THE NECCESSARY CONTRACT FORMALITIES IS WAITING TO BE DRAFTED AND SIGNED LEGALIZE IN OUR OFFICE IN ACCRA GHANA,WE ADVISE YOU TO COME DOWN TO OUR OFFICE IN GHANA FOR THE DRAFTING AND SIGNING OF THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT WITHIN SIX WORKING DAYS TO ENABLE US ANNOUNCE THE FINAL APPROVAL OF THIS CONTRACT IN YOUR FAVOUR AND ALSO TO LEGALIZE THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT DOCUMENT IN THE CUSTOMARY COURT OF GHANA WITH OUR GOVERNMENT BOARD AND PAYMENT RELEASE ORDER FOR THE TRANSFER OF YOUR CONTRACT PAYMENT WITH OUR CENTRAL BANK. AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU ARE TO COME DOWN TO OUR COUNTRY WITH THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS AS STIPULATED IN OUR COUNTRY FOREIGN CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS SUB SECTION 1/5:


1.) YOUR IMPORT & EXPORT REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE.

2.) YOUR TAX CLEARANCE FOR THE PAST 3YRS (IF ANY).

3.) COMPANY OWNER INTERNATIONAL PASSPORT PHOTOCOPY.

4.) YOUR ORIGINAL PROFORMA INVOICE .

5.) THE SUM OF 18,000 EURO FOR THE URGENT PROCESSING OF YOUR CONTRACT FORMALITIES AND LEGALISATION.


AND IF HAPPEN THAT YOU CAN NOT BE ABLE TO COME DOWN TO OUR COUNTRY WITHIN SIX WORKING DAYS FOR THE DRAFTING AND SIGNING OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT AGREEMENT DOCUMENTS, YOU ARE ADVISE TO NOMINATE A RESIDENTIAL "ATTORNEY" LAWYER WHO HAVE ALL THE QUALIFICATION NEEDED TO REPRESENT YOU AND VISIT OUR OFFICE FOR DRAFTING AND SIGNING OF THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT LEGALIZE THE ORIGINAL AND SIGN THE PAYMENT RELEASE ORDER IN YOUR FAVOUR FOR THE TRANSFER OF YOUR CONTRACT PAYMENT INTO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT FOR YOU TO START THE SHIPMENT IMMEDIATELY.


WE WAIT FOR YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTION WE HAVE NO TIME TO WASTE TOWARDS THIS CONTRACT . .


GOD BLESS YOU.


WE REMAIN,

MRS.MARY-ANN JOHNSON GEORGE/SECRETARY.
NATIONAL AGENCY FOR WEST AFRICAN DEVELOPEMENT.(NAFWAD).
REPUBLIC OF TOGO.
12 Nov 2006 07:39
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