Should Alibaba become a full-transaction platform? Why? Why not?
Post 32 of 46
Replying to [Admin]:No, A business is a system like a Car. Every part should do its best to lead the car a head as fast as possible and remember the Alibaba.com is another system apart of an enterprise like my neterprise.we both can cooperate to reach to our goals seperately and binding these two systems ( My system and Yours) only complicate our situation . This is the first wrong step that should be avoided.
18 Oct 2006 23:03
Post 33 of 46
Replying to [Admin]:
I will begin with one answer and then I will explain:
"Development is good."
1. For Alibaba this will be a development and I mean by this another service that is offered to the customers (buyers and sellers). But Alibaba is not the only one to develop so...
2. If Alibaba manages to make it safe: it's customer will do business safely and without worrying about scammers; then Alibaba will intermediate it's customers development.
If both conditions are followed and met then I think Alibaba MUST become a full-transaction platform.
The answers should be given by the people involved in Alibaba project. If they can find the tools to make it then they should make it.
Claudiu
I will begin with one answer and then I will explain:
"Development is good."
1. For Alibaba this will be a development and I mean by this another service that is offered to the customers (buyers and sellers). But Alibaba is not the only one to develop so...
2. If Alibaba manages to make it safe: it's customer will do business safely and without worrying about scammers; then Alibaba will intermediate it's customers development.
If both conditions are followed and met then I think Alibaba MUST become a full-transaction platform.
The answers should be given by the people involved in Alibaba project. If they can find the tools to make it then they should make it.
Claudiu
18 Oct 2006 23:17
Post 34 of 46
Replying to [Admin]:
well as matte fact it should be full transaction platform because alibaba .com makes life easier ,things easier and it very easy to take decison ,it is best site which makes people to understand better and better propserity
well as matte fact it should be full transaction platform because alibaba .com makes life easier ,things easier and it very easy to take decison ,it is best site which makes people to understand better and better propserity
18 Oct 2006 23:23
Post 35 of 46
I think that Alibaba is an excellent platform to find business partners.
It is very simple to send inquiries through Alibaba, but it is enough.
If I want to make business with a given company, I'd like to do it directly.
It is very simple to send inquiries through Alibaba, but it is enough.
If I want to make business with a given company, I'd like to do it directly.
19 Oct 2006 00:01
Post 36 of 46
Replying to [Admin]:This is an article that I picked up from Xinhua yesterday. So is there something on your mind perhapse Mr Alibaba?
Quote:
Alibaba Group, operator of Yahoo China, plans to acquire "a number of Internet companies" to help grow its core businesses Alibaba.com and Taobao.com, the company said Tuesday.
The acquisitions "will be initiated quite soon." If everything goes well the group will complete several deals by the end of the year.
"Acquisitions will become an important way to expand our business and we just appointed the right person in charge of this matter," said Jin Jianghang, vice president of Alibaba Group.
Tian Jian, former executive general manager of Yahoo China, has been appointed as Alibaba's vice president in charge of the newly established investment department for his knowledge in acquisitions.
Targets will be Websites that can help Alibaba.com and Taobao.com interact with users and attract surfers to its online markets. It will likely include well-known sites such as Dianping.com, known for its restaurant reviews, and Douban.com, which provides opinions on books, music and movies, Alibaba said in a statement.
But Alibaba officials said the two names are examples and not necessarily actual targets.
Officials with Dianping.com refused to comment yesterday whether they are in talks with Alibaba. No one at Douban.com was available to comment yesterday.
Alibaba also said yesterday that Yahoo China has entered a period of healthy growth. Alibaba acquired Yahoo China's operations in 2005 in a deal in which Yahoo took a 40 percent stake in Alibaba in exchange for 1 billion U.S. dollars cash and the injection of Yahoo's China assets into Alibaba.
"Our goal for the next five years is to become China's largest search engine," said Alibaba.com founder Jack Ma in a statement. " By 2009, we will train a three-year-old child into a big general ... to fight with Google and Baidu."
Yahoo China now has 800 employees - mostly engineers and product designers, doubling the number at the time of acquisition.
(Source: Shanghai Daily) End:
Quote:
Alibaba Group, operator of Yahoo China, plans to acquire "a number of Internet companies" to help grow its core businesses Alibaba.com and Taobao.com, the company said Tuesday.
The acquisitions "will be initiated quite soon." If everything goes well the group will complete several deals by the end of the year.
"Acquisitions will become an important way to expand our business and we just appointed the right person in charge of this matter," said Jin Jianghang, vice president of Alibaba Group.
Tian Jian, former executive general manager of Yahoo China, has been appointed as Alibaba's vice president in charge of the newly established investment department for his knowledge in acquisitions.
Targets will be Websites that can help Alibaba.com and Taobao.com interact with users and attract surfers to its online markets. It will likely include well-known sites such as Dianping.com, known for its restaurant reviews, and Douban.com, which provides opinions on books, music and movies, Alibaba said in a statement.
But Alibaba officials said the two names are examples and not necessarily actual targets.
Officials with Dianping.com refused to comment yesterday whether they are in talks with Alibaba. No one at Douban.com was available to comment yesterday.
Alibaba also said yesterday that Yahoo China has entered a period of healthy growth. Alibaba acquired Yahoo China's operations in 2005 in a deal in which Yahoo took a 40 percent stake in Alibaba in exchange for 1 billion U.S. dollars cash and the injection of Yahoo's China assets into Alibaba.
"Our goal for the next five years is to become China's largest search engine," said Alibaba.com founder Jack Ma in a statement. " By 2009, we will train a three-year-old child into a big general ... to fight with Google and Baidu."
Yahoo China now has 800 employees - mostly engineers and product designers, doubling the number at the time of acquisition.
(Source: Shanghai Daily) End:
19 Oct 2006 00:18
Post 37 of 46
Replying to [Admin]: its really great to have such services from Alibaba........it should become like that because here we find no. of buyers and sellers at under one platform so it would be convinient if they will provide such services also but with trust worthy environment and under some specified rules and regulations will provide by Alibaba.com......
19 Oct 2006 00:46
Post 38 of 46
Replying to [Admin]:Harry,
The onus will be passed to Alibaba. The security risks, secured electronic transactions and many other risks faced by full transaction portals.
The questions are:
1. Are the sellers confident to allow an intermediate to handle their transactions?
2. Are the buyers willing to release their secured transaction codes to a third party, who is the intermediate.
3. Will there be any compromise in the security to protect these data from hackers?
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Street
The onus will be passed to Alibaba. The security risks, secured electronic transactions and many other risks faced by full transaction portals.
The questions are:
1. Are the sellers confident to allow an intermediate to handle their transactions?
2. Are the buyers willing to release their secured transaction codes to a third party, who is the intermediate.
3. Will there be any compromise in the security to protect these data from hackers?
Street
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19 Oct 2006 02:47
Post 39 of 46
Replying to [Street Smart]: Which is precisely why I would advocate an arms length arrangement. Whilst less convenient, it is more secure and requires multiple security breaches by a hacker rather than just one.
20 Oct 2006 00:24
Post 40 of 46
Replying to [Admin]:If you are willing to cover the liability involved why not, If you are not don?t, Ok let?s get real! When one of our employees shows us this we found it very interesting.
It?s a very good idea but be very careful where you go with it,
You can take a look at eBay and paypal, that do bring buyers and sellers together, when using paypal (own by eBay) to pay for you transaction on eBay, you are covered if the seller does not deliver, you are covered by paypal buyers insurance, this is what I mean by cover the liability, If i was to use alibaba rating system and get scammed then, alibaba would be open to a lawsuit, because I was depending on alibaba rating on buyers or sellers to do my business and alibaba didnot verified buyers and sellers information from government, FDA, WHO, CE, UC, banks or investment companies, and credit rating of such companies by reputable businesses like Dun and Bradstreet, Equifax, etc.
Bottom line, It would be easier for eBay to do this because their platform is set up for this and can simply add global trade by the container loads, they do have wholesale lots available, and if you live in the USA you can buy items from most parts of the world and have it shipped using 2 day DHL or FedEx.
But remember ebay can not do this because we own the patents for this. And that is the main reason they have not gotten into this market. Global Sources also has the same problem, so how are you going to do this without infringing our patents.
Alibaba would have to redo their entire platform to accommodate such transaction, and would have to verify all buyers and sellers banking information directly from the bank; they would also have to set up a payment platform that can accommodate huge transactions by means of working with global financials institutions.If you can do it this way you will take trade to the next level but then you would be infringing our patents, which has not been done by anyone, at present we are working on such a platform using .net technologies, we have been working with 6 global shipping companies, 9 global financial instructions, 22 public traded companies, and the government (Trade Ministry) of 11 countries, and have gotten an approved patent for this platform, development and use of it globally.
We have been also working with the owners (companies) of Intellectual Prosperity rights to better develop the platform where manufacture will not be able to sell knockoffs, we have been working with the government to help accommodate live time access to there patent data base for said manufactures that infringe on these laws. The governments have kept negation open with us because using our platform the government can have better control over global trade in live time.
This platform will be launched in the second quarter of 2007 in 11 countries.
Now don?t get us wrong we are not competing with your platform, we started development on this platform 2 years ago.
Best of luck on your endeavors.
CEO
Platinum International Holding .
Global Investment Solutions.
P.S what would happen if we sell this to google![[em2]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_laugh.gif)
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It?s a very good idea but be very careful where you go with it,
You can take a look at eBay and paypal, that do bring buyers and sellers together, when using paypal (own by eBay) to pay for you transaction on eBay, you are covered if the seller does not deliver, you are covered by paypal buyers insurance, this is what I mean by cover the liability, If i was to use alibaba rating system and get scammed then, alibaba would be open to a lawsuit, because I was depending on alibaba rating on buyers or sellers to do my business and alibaba didnot verified buyers and sellers information from government, FDA, WHO, CE, UC, banks or investment companies, and credit rating of such companies by reputable businesses like Dun and Bradstreet, Equifax, etc.
Bottom line, It would be easier for eBay to do this because their platform is set up for this and can simply add global trade by the container loads, they do have wholesale lots available, and if you live in the USA you can buy items from most parts of the world and have it shipped using 2 day DHL or FedEx.
But remember ebay can not do this because we own the patents for this. And that is the main reason they have not gotten into this market. Global Sources also has the same problem, so how are you going to do this without infringing our patents.
Alibaba would have to redo their entire platform to accommodate such transaction, and would have to verify all buyers and sellers banking information directly from the bank; they would also have to set up a payment platform that can accommodate huge transactions by means of working with global financials institutions.If you can do it this way you will take trade to the next level but then you would be infringing our patents, which has not been done by anyone, at present we are working on such a platform using .net technologies, we have been working with 6 global shipping companies, 9 global financial instructions, 22 public traded companies, and the government (Trade Ministry) of 11 countries, and have gotten an approved patent for this platform, development and use of it globally.
We have been also working with the owners (companies) of Intellectual Prosperity rights to better develop the platform where manufacture will not be able to sell knockoffs, we have been working with the government to help accommodate live time access to there patent data base for said manufactures that infringe on these laws. The governments have kept negation open with us because using our platform the government can have better control over global trade in live time.
This platform will be launched in the second quarter of 2007 in 11 countries.
Now don?t get us wrong we are not competing with your platform, we started development on this platform 2 years ago.
Best of luck on your endeavors.
CEO
Platinum International Holding .
Global Investment Solutions.
P.S what would happen if we sell this to google
20 Oct 2006 00:32
Post 41 of 46
Replying to [Admin]: I believe this would be a great value added service as well. This would quell the trust issues involved in doing business with members and at the same time force potentially bad suppliers and scammmers off the site. This would also allow a rating system to come into being for the purposes of rating quality of the transaction ie. timely delivery and product quality. Price point would however be taboo in a rating system. This rating system would also suffice to be a great form of references for suppliers and buyers as well. On completion of a deal through the service provided Alibaba could issue satisfaction surveys to both parties in the grading system. However the grading system should only be useable by those that conduct business through the service. As for cost associated with the service Gold Suppliers and or Trustpass members could pay the same cost and those not members could pay slightly more for the service but be confident that their hard earned money will not be in danger through dishonest practices.
Best regards,
Ranger
Best regards,
Ranger
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20 Oct 2006 04:55