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What is your steps when you plan to take another job?
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ahoo
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For lots of people, esp. graduates who came out from schools and usually took a job which is not of choice , want to change their jobs after a period of time later, however, out of different reasons.

At this time, it is a new beginning for someone who not just want to change a company but a market, but on earth which market is unknown. what will you do in this situation?
29 Aug 2007 19:23
Post 2 of 22
Replying to [ahoo]:

Remember: "knowledge is power". That means, as early as possible you should start investigating the market in general and the job market in particular. That should put you in the position to change your job almost any time you like (unless economy is going haywire, of course).

Here in the Mexican manufacturing industry some people "strictly follow the rule" of getting a new job every year and a half or two. Every time they do that, they get a better position or at least a better salary. And the secret to their success is "information". They know exactly what to do, when, where, etc.

So if you are thinking in a new job, start getting informed "yesterday". And as long as you don't know the situation around you, better don't make any move at all.
29 Aug 2007 20:34
Post 3 of 22
Replying to [ahoo]:

S1. Think it over why you don't want to continue on your current job?
S2. What kind of job you would like to enage in? job with more salary? more challenge? more interesting? more rest time?
S3. Learn to be competent in the job which you will go to hunt.
S4. Hooooooooooop...


Hyk


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29 Aug 2007 22:59
Post 4 of 22
Replying to [everconn]:

Does "Hooooooooooop..." stand for "take a plunge into the cold water"? [em2]

Good advices! [em19]
30 Aug 2007 10:52
Post 5 of 22
Replying to [germex]:

Maybe stand for " jump down from crashing plane with parachute" [em3]


Hyk
30 Aug 2007 19:07
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Replying to [ahoo]:

Dear my friend,
In my opinion, it's the the job! [em7]
31 Aug 2007 20:00
Post 7 of 22
Replying to [lindy]:

Find some good candidate company,
take some interview,
and ask for a talk with your company boss
for your uncompletion or doubt with company development......


Or Introduce your boss some good candidate to replay you.......

It is hard to say if you sign "" YEARS " contract......
Please think seriously when you enter into full contract after your trial time of three month ends................


Nowaday, Not many young man wants sign" Years" contract....
So......
31 Aug 2007 21:36
Post 8 of 22
Replying to [ahoo]:

Its obviouse if someone wants to change the job that he or she is not happy with the current one. But that doesn´t mean to just Hooop around, since there is no gurantee that you really get the job you prepared for or looked for. And that means that you have lost your current job and have no money to sustain long enough by yourself, and eventually you will end up where you started.


Here is a safer approach for that, base requirment is Curiousity, must be able to sacrifice some comforts for a while, and some aggressivness.

1. Stay in your current job, but utulize your free time in
- Finding the job you like
- Studying the benefits and losses of the step you are going to
take
- Try to see if they offer part time shifts, or night shifts, that way
you are able to work both jobs, money secured and get to feel
the job you think is right
2. Call as many companies and find out their critieria for hiring
- Sometimes its just not enough to have the requisit for the job
you need to have also basic knowledge of the new field you are
going to enter
- If its some managerial position you seek for a new job, then its
best to find out where the managers of this company associate,
in their lunch time or free time. That way you can go there and
start introducing yourself even before you apply to the company,
invite them for drinks and find out more about the company.
3. Know your futur company
- Sometimes its also good to find out how the company itself is
doing, "Are they Exapanding?" if so then you have a ladder to
climb from the start, or "Are they Cutting cost or near their end?"
this is bad, since you might just get hired by them, and the next
thing you know is your on the street again.
4. Before leaving the company
- you should have had already established insider information
for your new job, that way you know you are going to get the job
no matter how
- you have already made a contract with the company of your
choice, or got at least a letter from the company stating that you
qualify for their open job.
5. Leaving the Company
- Make sure if something does go wrong, that you have a place
to come back to, so don´t ruin your relationships with your old
company
- if possible, try to get a good character letter from your old
company, this will help you in your new job and any where else

So now you made a shift, it took you some time, instead of just jumping out of the plane, with a parachute, who knows where the wind might have taken you. But now you have secured your job, know a whole lot more, and the best thing your inflowing money streaming didn´t break down a bit, and you managed to stay on good ground with your old company.
01 Sep 2007 02:30
Post 9 of 22
Replying to [Firo]: Firo - your posting is great! [em19][em19] Two thumbs up!

I would always see that I have the new contract basically already on my desk before I leave the company I work for, now. This helps you don't loose income. Plus stay informed on the market you want to enter. Find ways your new employer needs to optimize their sales, etc. In case you are not sure if you will succeed: make sure you do never leave your old company in bad blood and stay on top of that market as well, just in case. You never know if your new company does pay you, dosn't go bankrupt, etc and you may need to get back to your old one...
01 Sep 2007 06:00
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Replying to [ahoo]:

Lots of young people change jobs as if they're changing shirts. Employers usually look for long term development of both the company and the people involved in running the company. It's best to know first by learning as much as possible about the new company and the industry. Moving on to new company or industry is not a bad thing by itself, I know I've done that before. Even if some people change employers every couple of years or so, it's not really a negative move. I've done that myself for strategic reasons, and for personal development (i.e if my employer couldn't afford to keep me and promote/reward me, then why shouldn't I promote myself).

Another thing to remember, moving on to another employer/industry will never change the fact that you're "bringing along" yourself, and that's a constant. The environment may change, colleagues may be of a different sort but you yourself is the same. As an employer I'd want to know if you'd turn out to be an asset, or just a "passing cargo" in my organisation. And as an employee I'd want to be certain that am moving on to something better, not necessarily in terms of immediate financial rewards, but more of long term personal development and ultimately better rewards.

In my last job I'd intended to stay for no more than 5 years, but it turned out to be more than twice the number of years, because I loved the rather influential position and the challenge, it's fun and life was so secure. I then realised financial reward was not everything. It took me quite quite a while to force myself to leave, for the ultimate challenge of self-employment.

Whatever you do, equip yourself first with relevant knowledge, and salesmanship skills.
01 Sep 2007 20:35
Post 11 of 22
Replying to [smarco]:

You might be new to the forums, but evidently you are not new to life or to business. Therefore I always enjoy your posts to the forums. This time is not different, though I have the impression that regarding job search your experiences might be limited to certain cultures.

I'm living in one of the most industrialized cities in Mexico, and here you _have_ to get another job at least every two and a half years or you are considered a loser, especially by your bosses.

The reason is that they want you to promote yourself, going to another manufacturing plant. That opens the door for them to employ somebody who is also switching to another job (just like you) and give him - not you - the higher position.

The reason behind this apparently weird behaviour is that they want to avoid problems with envy. If you get promoted within your company, all those people who have known you for some time will start rumoring, "why him, what's wrong with us, do they think we are dummies?", etc. And that of course causes problems a company wants to avoid.

If you come from somewhere else, you can claim that you had a similar position and just wanted to "gain experience" (the classical justification). Your colleagues might not believe you, but there is much less tension and animosity this way.

So if you want to get a promotion, go for it - go somewhere else! Here companies encourage that.
02 Sep 2007 11:39
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