Replying to [lawyer_He]:Interpol lists China as a member state so I would also submit a report of the crime with them as well. Also, you might find a legal firm based in China that would be willing to pursue a claim, not to mention knowing which local authorities would investigate.

Scammers in China are quite EASY to spot folks: they are not professionals. The first question you have to ask yourself is: 1) Is this deal too good to be true? the 2) Ask credentials to the seller; references; testimonials in your country, not in China 3) Does he act as a professional (real web site; .com email address, phone number; registered business number) or is he using chat programs, yahoo email addresses, vulgar web sites, no testimonials?
I mean, guys, please this is not difficult, in most cases you simply have to tell yourself "I DO NOT BELIEVE IN MIRACLES!"

Replying to [lawyer_He]: have not happened this before, just be careful , that will be better

Replying to [Lawyersun]:hi i am an Australian and i am about to finilize my first shippment of handbags that i have had made from a chinese business -- i have paid them 30% deposit and they have sent me samples, which are great -- am i dreaming -- they have a very good web site and a big catalogue of bags -- they seem very professional and i haven't thought any bad feelings from them yet -- but reading these comments from dozens of up set importers, i am very scared -- are there any good stories out there??? please i don't know what i should do now -- do i pay the final amount? or not?

Replying to [nomiracles]:hi
thanks i needed ti hear that -- i am dealing with a handbag factory and they have a very good website and real email address ect they have sent great samples and when i ask for a sample to be made in fabric i choose and send them -- they make it and send it to me -- so before reading these topics i was confident but now i am feeling really sick as i am about to pay my final bill to have my product sent to me...... it will be horrible if its not for real!

Replying to [MarksMart]:
Replying to [Business in China]:

Lucy, a woman, and her friend/bf a man are ONLINE 24-7 scamming people On alibaba.com, beware of HER. she is smart, and professional scammer. she promises to send U products but after U send her the money IN western Union, bankaccount or paycheck, SHE does NOT send any product. she makes up a stupid story that her boss wont send the products.

She is mean, evil, and bloody-fake, she acts SUPER nice but she is a MANIPULATIVE scammer.

report her to police, report her information below to police, because she chooses to SCAM AND CHEAT on young loving kind people like me who work SO much to make their pennies and pay their bills.



KINGLION
http://kinglion.en.alibaba.com

Tel: +86-579-87217007 (lucy's number, the scammer, call her and make sure you tell her how bad and evil a person she is) she will burn in Hell for cheating people , innocent people.

Fax: +86-579-87217968

LUCY E-mail: sales03.kl@gmail.com

LUCY Skype: raniazsn


Msn: zjyklucy@hotmail.com
Beijing 100026
Tel: (86) 10-6598-6666
Fax: (86) 10-6598-6660689-0114 (English)
International directory assiSTANT of scammers


Tel: +86-579-87217007 -scammer fone, beware!

Replying to [lawyer_He]: Oh how happy this makes me!! I have a contact in china that would love to shut the scammers down. He dont like them giving the hones and hard working people of china a bad rap. I hope my contact can help us all.

Replying to [not happy]: I am using a company that is looking good so far.... the man is very honest and upfront. there are good one out there but hard to find.

Quoting from [not happy]:



Replying to [Lawyersun]:hi i am an Australian and i am about to finilize my first shippment of handbags that i have had made from a chinese business -- i have paid them 30% deposit and they have sent me samples, which are great -- am i dreaming -- they have a very good web site and a big catalogue of bags -- they seem very professional and i haven't thought any bad feelings from them yet -- but reading these comments from dozens of up set importers, i am very scared -- are there any good stories out there??? please i don't know what i should do now -- do i pay the final amount? or not?

What were the terms of payment in your contract with the company? The best way to prevent the type of fraud discussed in this forum is to specify that the balance should be paid on satisfactory delivery of products. At this point, it may be too late to renegotiate the terms of the contract.



Best of luck to you -- I hope that your product delivery is successful. Next time, if you are unsure of a supplier's credentials, make sure to contact a lawyer and ask him to perform a due diligence check. Like preventative medicine, preventative law pays off in the long run -- as many members of this forum unfortunately learn the hard way.



Kind regards,



Edward Lehman


Managing Director


Lehman, Lee & Xu - A Top Three China Law Firm

Replying to [lawyer_He]: hi
I hope you can help me ..I have been scammed by a company called
XIAMEN HONGZHI TRADING CO ..
they sell electronics ...these people took 3,400 from me
and do not even answer my mails or IM ...
I paid it to the owner of the company ...I have an invoice ..I also have a tracking number they gave me ...they said they sent out
they lied ...two months and nothing ..these people I know have scammed others before ..I want to sue them ...I want them to pay more then what they owe me ..i want to include lawyer fees and more ...and i want them out of alibaba ..I have so much aggrovation ..do u know what it is to email them and IM them on the trade manager and they dont answer you ...?? and if I go under another name they do answer ...they are scammers and need to be put away ..i want justice ..i also would like to know how long it would take ...i would like to pursue this asap ..my email is ethancps@hotmail.com please email me asap ..ty