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Define PLAGARISM - Anyone with a good explanation on this wins
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Here in the fast pace Cyber Space, the infringement of the Intellectual Property Rights has been so rampant nowadays.

This is especially true of students stealing the works and writings of others, download them and called it their own. There are also a business, selling these papers such as Business Plans, Marketing Strategies, Employment Application Letters and so on.

Alibaba does not condone such acts of plagiarism, and will remove them and deduct the MVP from their scoreboards, after evidences of this acts are produced.

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25 Sep 2006 23:01
Post 2 of 17
Replying to [Street Smart]:In the simplest terms, to take the work of someone else and pass it off as your own.[em1]
29 Sep 2006 08:16
Post 3 of 17
Replying to [Street Smart]:

Plagiarism is intentional shameless cheating by someone who wants to take credit for someone else's work rather than exert effort to create his/her own work.
29 Sep 2006 11:39
Post 4 of 17

Quoting from [Street Smart]:

Both of you are right.

As Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English:

Plagiarism - n. 1. An act of using someone else's words, ideas, or work and pretending they are your own.  2. An idea, phrase, story etc that has been copied from someone else's work, without stating that this is where it comes from.

The New Webster Dictionary makes it even more vicious:

Plagiarism - The act of plagiarizing; the crime of literary theft. which comes from the word  Plagiary:- a kidnapper, manstealing (plagiarius) kidnapping, from (plaga): One who steals the words or ideas of another and p them off as his own; a literary theif.

However there are many cases of "quotation" where one mere quotes the words or phrase, E.g. I quoted a phrase from the famous speech of Abraham; "YOU CAN FOOL SOME PEOPLE, SOME OF THE TIME, BUT NOT ALL THE TIME, NEITHER ALL THE PEOPLE AT ANY TIME." I changed it a bit, by rephrasing it, but I gave him the credit for this wise words. ..... am I a plagiarist?

There are many incidences of copy and paste texts, phrases, writings of others in this Forum that is evident of this act. However, there is no clause in Alibaba's Rules that plagarism is a violation, only SPAM and TRADE LEADS.

My next issue is the discussion of TRADE LEADS. How would you define TRADE LEADS?

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30 Sep 2006 23:13
Post 5 of 17
Replying to [Street Smart]:
it is only plagarism if you do not give credit to the originator of the text, for this we must discuss what it means to be the "originator".

I can say that according to Rizzob plagarism is "In the simplest terms, to take the work of someone else and pass it off as your own." This is not plagarism because I have clearly given them credit for the statement.

However if I were to only say;

here is my deffinition: In the simplest terms, to take the work of someone else and pass it off as your own.

Because I didn't give credit to Rizzob this would be plagarism, or would it?.

This of course is very simple example within the context of this forum.

There is nothing wrong with quoting someone. But to say that you must give credit if it has been written before would be rediculous. Humans have been around for tens of thousands of years. To honestly think that you can come up with something totally original would be one of the most conceited and self centered things anyone could say. Plus I don't plan on checking every book, blog, forum entry, or paper ever written before hitting the post button on my forum entries.

The question is whether or not what you are writing has a value and if you stand to gain from it, or stop someone else from gaining by voicing it to the group first. People that are credited with major inventions in scociety are not the only ones to think of the invention, they are just the first ones to mass produce it, or get it patented, or get the right audience to view it.

Thomas Edison isn't the only person to invent the light bulb, and the Write Brothers are not the only ones who solved the problem of flight.

We need to be careful in how we deal with plagarism as two people could have the same original thought. I could have just as easily given the same answer as Rizzob in the exact same words without ever looking at their post on this forum.

Hopefully this will spark more discussion.

Thank you
04 Oct 2006 15:56
Post 6 of 17
Replying to [Street Smart]:
who wrote as a de facto answer
Plagiarism - n. 1. An act of using someone else's words, ideas, or work and pretending they are your own. 2. An idea, phrase, story etc that has been copied from someone else's work, without stating that this is where it comes from.

Should be re written in the contect of Alibaba.com and the means of doing business -- as --

Plagiarism - From the translated Chinese characters meaning " the only way I can do business " .
1) To copy , take credit as ones own work that which I have taken as a design or thought or input from , my customer ( s ) , my customers customer / competitors .and sold to as many people as I can, as many times as I can , for as much money as I can.
2) To make from anothers hard work because I have no design skills of my own or would not invest in for my company because its easier to copy or make subtle changes to something that is given to me.

See also the Chinese words for
1) Designer . Translated means - changer of designs already
existing.
2) Intelectual property rights Translated means - what the eye doesn't see the heart doesn't grieve over mutiplied by 10,000
3) Copyright / Patent Translated means You must change the colour before you make it.

Come on boys . Plagiarism ?? Its not a word its a way of life. 1.4 Billion people can't be wrong!
05 Oct 2006 07:09
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Replying to [Street Smart]: Plagiarism is the practice of (dishonestly) claiming or implying original authorship of material which one has not actually created, such as when a person incorporates material from someone else's work into his own work without attributing it. /johan, sweden
07 Oct 2006 12:19
Post 8 of 17
Replying to [Street Smart]:Plagiarism occurs when one steals or uses the ideas or writings of another and presents these writings or ideas as his or her own.

Stephen Wilhoit?s article titled "Helping Students Avoid Plagiarism" in College Teaching (Fall 1994, pages161-164) lists the following types of plagiarism:

"Buying a paper for a research service or term paper mill.
Turning in another student's work without that student's knowledge.
Turning in a paper a peer has written for the student.
Copying a paper from a source text without proper acknowledgment.
Copying materials from a source text, supplying proper documentation, but leaving out quotation marks.
Paraphrasing materials from a source text without appropriate documentation."
And, now with the Internet, we need to add another type of plagiarism:

Turning in a paper from a "free term paper" website.
09 Oct 2006 00:50
Post 9 of 17
Replying to [Street Smart]:You didnt write this topic[em6] you've nicked it from somebody else!![em24]
15 Oct 2006 16:23
Post 10 of 17
Quoting from [Street Smart]:

Here in the fast pace Cyber Space, the infringement of the Intellectual Property Rights has been so rampant nowadays.

This is especially true of students stealing the works and writings of others, download them and called it their own. There are also a business, selling these papers such as Business Plans, Marketing Strategies, Employment Application Letters and so on.

Alibaba does not condone such acts of plagiarism, and will remove them and deduct the MVP from their scoreboards, after evidences of this acts are produced.

[em10] Street Smart [em12]

Plagiarism is the practice of (dishonestly) claiming or implying original authorship of material which one has not actually created, such as when a person incorporates material from someone else's work into his own work without  attributing it

  Shakespeare's appropriation of stories into his plays may be considered plagiarism, except that Shakespeare never claimed that the stories were his own, and his transformations of them were so great that they served as literary sources, not as copied materials.

Within  academia, plagiarism is seen as academic dishonesty and is a serious and punishable academic offense.

Non-attribution in ipse is not necessarily plagiarism; it is only such when the norms of the community are affronted. In normal discourse, it is not usual to make attribution. Likewise, use of non-attributed Biblical phraseology or quotations in a sermon is acceptable. To an extent, accusations of plagiarism seem to be attracted by a perceived hubris on the part of their target.

Three acts are plagiarism: (1) failing to cite quotations and borrowed ideas, (2) failing to enclose borrowed language in quotation marks and (3) failing to put summaries and paraphrases in your own words."

Other experts say that absence of quotation marks is not by itself plagiarism. However, if they have been removed to hide plagiarism, that proves the plagiarism is deliberate.

  These are extracts from my study and modified to understand for the members. We can elaborate and give more  examples and more pages. I stop here this is enough to get 50MVP

 

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17 Oct 2006 20:31
Post 11 of 17
Replying to [Street Smart]: Plagarism basically means to copy something that is not yours but claim it as your own.

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