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Don't touch multinational company business
Post 1 of 13
Working as seller's reps in Alibaba open up opportunities to work with other sellers from my country and region. However, multinational company decline to participate because they were bound by the laws and agreement that had been signed.

For example, I've inquired from a well established multinational computer producer after reading about inquiry in Alibaba. The finance director of that company is a friend of mine and he says there is no way that I could trade their products as they already have reps in that particular country. He mentioned that, once there is a reps in one country then their business is untouchable except thru that representative or representatives.

Same goes with the information pass by another friend of mine who holds the communication director post in a multinational tyre producer company. I had a lead from an Indonesian buyer but he said the buyer can contact their reps in Jakarta to buy their products.
In other words, once there is a reps in one particular country, their business will not be touched. I think this will create some problem for any buyer who wish to buy directly from any producer.

And for those who buys through any seller on multinational company product from Alibaba, then I suggest they should be careful because they maybe have problems in importing the goods or they might buying a second rate products.

Alibaba is a good site for connecting west and east as there are lots of products that is available to trade but maybe Alibaba's admin could disqualified any sellers who claimed access to multinational company products?

whats your idea about this, welcome reply here.
24 Sep 2006 10:44
Post 2 of 13
Replying to [starian8387]:

Good info. Thank you.
25 Sep 2006 05:26
Post 3 of 13
Replying to [starian838 :WHAT IS THIS ABOUT???
WHAT YOU WANT TO PROVE OR SAY???
26 Sep 2006 00:06
Post 4 of 13
Replying to [starian8387]: Thank You,,,,,,,,,,,
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26 Sep 2006 00:23
Post 5 of 13
Replying to [starian8387]: Any information inport export will make your work better . Thanks[em19]
26 Sep 2006 08:47
Post 6 of 13
Replying to [starian8387]:First of all my intention is to minimise the fraud that is happening in Alibaba website. They are lots of complains from buyers about getting laptops and other things, one Australian company even mentioned about Chinese seller who has given rights of representative to them going direct to buyer within its scope of business.
This is actually a big problem as every multinational company will have their representative in some of the regions. The main office will actually do not have the rights to deal with anyone within the scope of business of their representatives and if buyer is interested, they will pass it to their representatives.
There maybe a few solutions that could be implemented by Alibaba.
Among it is to banned any products produced by multinational company from being traded in this website. If any company claim this and that, moderator may asked them to produce their certificate of rights to sell these products. If not, their website can be banned and scrap from this trade site.
There are few complains online about problems in getting products into buyers country, customs seizing the products and other things. But the main problem is that, most members complained about they being scammed by seller who offers goods, especially electronic goods.
There are no problem in trading a non-multinational company, there are thousands of products produced either by west or east company. But once those products are produced and patented by multinational company, no one, except certified company has the rights to sell it.
To put it in short, Alibaba can ensure that no one get scammed just by looking at the products offered by seller. If its products produced by multinational company, then its either scam or they can be asked to produce their certificate signed by the parent company. Alibaba must insist they produce the copy and then certified it with the parent company.
I think, if this is not done, multinational company or their representative may have the right to sue Alibaba website for allowing these transaction to take place in this website. Fact is this goods are either doesnt exist or second rate goods.
26 Sep 2006 09:27
Post 7 of 13
Replying to [starian8387]:

Most people that get scammed on Alibaba are the ones who do not do their due diligence and research the supplier. Most people getting scammed are looking to make a quick purhcase at a lower price than the reputable company offers the product.
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Lesson to learn: Do your due diligence!! Don't place the blame for your laziness on Alibaba.
26 Sep 2006 13:30
Post 8 of 13
Replying to [Cali Rugger]:Yes,as a supplier,I know that the buyers send the enquiry to many suppliers,I think they can make the first selection through the reply.
26 Sep 2006 20:09
Post 9 of 13
Replying to [starian8387]: starian8387, Nokia is a multinational company. Why would you say that no one besides a Nokia representative in that country can sell Nokia's? Multinational companies do prefer to distribute their products thru large multinational distributors. But those distributors are more than glad to add several VAR's. Even large retailers would go directly to the multinational distributor. If you as a re-seller sign an agreement with the multinational distributor as a VAR all the rights of selling the product are also yours along with the restrictions. To many times re-sellers will advertise them selves as a liscenced re-seller when they have not signed the liscencing agreement. Multinational distributors will also sell products to re-sellers even though they are not a VAR. Warranties for workmanship is an agreement between the manufacturer and the end user issued by the manufacturer and has nothing to do with the seller. To be authorized either for selling or repair of a product you must be a VAR or directly liscenced by the manufacturer for the repair of their products.

There are a few companies that do the distribution themselves. The most well known of the computer companies that do this is Apple. This is done because the company wants complete control of marketing price and the way in which the products are marketed. To become a VAR for a company such as this all agreements must be signed with the manufacturer. Apple has far more liscenced repair comapnies than they have VAR's.

In any case it is the responsibility of any prospective buyer to do the checking themselves. This is not a hard thing to do if the manufacturer is contacted directly and can help the buyer avoid the embarassment of being scammed and loosing their money.

rgds,

Ranger
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26 Sep 2006 21:12
Post 10 of 13
Replying to [Ranger]:I think you misunderstood me. What I was trying to say is that multinational company like Nokia has standing agreement with their own representative in the country, such as yours in the United States. These company has the right to sale and distribute to local seller. However, since these is their scope of business and tie-up, no imports from outside seller such as from Malaysia my country is eligible to sell the products to the United States. For any interested buyer in the United States, they must go thru representative in the country and so does any buyer in Malaysia, have to buy from Malaysian representative.
Any imports of Nokia products will be against the contract signed by Nokia and their representatives. Same goes with all other multinational companies. Local buyer must deal with local representative of their countries.
27 Sep 2006 11:37
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Replying to [starian8387]:
Hey,
I agree with you, but I think you were misunderstood. No problem, i got your message, and this is what happen when you decide to work with the best brands, no matter the business sector. I had the same problem with a very famous perfume brand from France. But, there is space in the market for everybody. C ya.
27 Sep 2006 12:30
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