Maria from Denmark wrote a topic as follows which triggered a hot discussion on Chinese suppliers.

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/2371/CHINESSE_SUPPLIERS_BE_AWARE_.htm

As a local Chinese foreign trade manager with high credit standing, I can assure you that 99% of Chinese suppliers are honest and reliable. China is becoming the so called ' world factory' and ' manufacturing centre' owing to her low labour cost, which benefit billions of people worldwide every year. Countless buyers from worldwide coming to China for business opportunities every year, and some Chinese suppliers have to compete with their counterparts worldwide to meet the regulations of WTO. After China joined WTO in 2001, more and more Chinese suppliers are becoming trustworthy and reliable as they have realized that they have to improve the quality and service to compete with others.

However, some foreign buyers take it for granted that Chinese goods must be very cheap, so they cut down the prices to the least, incredibly low to make themselves profit more. In such cases, some Chinese businessman are forced to cheat you because they profit too less. If you don't have a win-win concept in your mind, you're bound to be cheated in China. There is an old Chinese saying like this: Low price doesn't match high-quality goods.

I totally agree what grigo---An Australian businessman said in a comment. Here is part of his comments on Chinese suppliers.

"Please don't put ALL Chinese Suppliers in one basket. For every BAD one there are MANY good, honest ones.I've been dealing with Chinese Suppliers for over 12 years now, and YES, I TOO got scammed by ONE years ago, (only small amount). Now I am in a position where I have representatives over there (Chinese), who find goods for me of the quality I want, the price I want, and if there were any problems, THEY FIX IT.
One of the BIGGEST problems I have found in my years of travelling over there, watching, listening, observing, is that Westerners almost ALWAYS screw the Chinese Manufacturers down in price. Thus Chinese only have ONE option in order to get the business. THEY CUT DOWN ON QUALITY. Very simple. The old saying - you get what you pay for!
For the sake of a few cents more per item, you CAN get quality. I even get quality goods from them which are SUPERIOR in quality than those made in teh local market. "

So the best solution for avoiding business scammers in China is to find a representative like me and get your Chinese supplier verified, by this way, you can have good cooperation with your Chinese suppliers!

Don't be scared in dealing with Chinese suppliers, I can help you at all times! Come on and you'll profit a lot in the near future!

I  believe that most suppliers are good, and our goal is to establish long busniess with the buyers.

I totaly disagree with what you have said, you basically have said if a non national to China agrees a price with Manufacture and if the manufacture feels they are not making enough profit they will produce low qulity products.

What sort of a stament is that, if you do not make the profit yourequirethen do not sell.

Lets face it all products in China are of low quality (basically not good) and they are the worst in the world for Service of any kind.

So be realistic here buyers if you are dealing with good suppliers or manufactures then name them so everyone can benift including the good suppliers and manufactures.

You see nobody can actually produce a list of Good Manufactures including the muppet that wrote this statement.

 

yes, we are ,i am a chinese,and we also trade with foreign country. i believe most of the chinese suppliers are honest ,all the supplier hope there would be a good cooperation with each other.

Can anyone advise me off honest nikon suplliers in china please


soquilichi@bigpond.com

I have also been scammed

Justin,


How are you? Thank you for your reply. I am excited, I guess I made my first crack on a possible scammer. I sent several emails and a buying lead in alibaba and a number of people contacted me. I got two who identified alibaba websites when I asked for their company's alibaba website and when I contacted the teo alibaba websites' owners they said they do not know the agents... I would like to send you the email exchange we had, the two agents, but its not possible for attachments here. I will send it to you at the email address you used to reply me to in my yahoo account.


Anyway, where else could I report these guys, I seem to have lost all those links I had last night when I surfed your email here at alibaba.


Hope we could be friends. There really are a lot of these scammers and there should be more of us fighting them to help others not to be fooled.


I started looking for original cellphone suppliers and ended up identifying scammers instead hahaha, but its fun and exciting heheh...


Keep in touch and congratulations again to your company for helping that aussie..


sincerely,



Francis T Cruz

Iloilo City, Philippines

Ok aussie ,
So far id have to agree with all of you ,
There are 1% of scammers , im gonna jack that up to 10% , but they have up to 10 or 20 different names and sites , , so far ive run into the same scungey little piece of sh1t twice in 2 days .
he goes by a few names
http://loveit.en.alibaba.com . http://www.injosextoy.com
Mr jake XU today , hes a chamelian or a tranny , a she sometimes and a he others,
The minute i ask for a company account he disapears. ..

Well Im looking for sex toys . and im still looking for someone who isnt dodgey ,
Im thinking to go there and buy them myself , .
so in my book so far 97% are scammers . .
the odds will go down but how long and at what cost .
I have people waiting for their goods.

If you want to purchase from china, make sure you pay with paypal, dont use western union, moneygram.I was ripped off twice from the websites below:

www.bolaebay.com . 3 person working together to rip you off. real chinese name : ying fu,yan wu lin

http://xmhuicheng.en.alibaba.com

 chinese name :sanhua luo address:ZhongHang Road city : FuTian province:Shenzhen china city code:518302

be aware!!!

Those websites should be suspended.

 

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Quite alot are honest but not very responsible. They will give you the goods but if the goods issnt as what we ask for some of them just dun care after that say take it or leave it. Unless they know you have constant big orders for them if not usually they wont bother. Encounter this many times already.

In the electronic field there is more dishonest suppliers compare to other traders. Esp for phone, mp4, flash memory related. Cos today their store is here, next month they will move to other places and this continue cos they wanna avoid warranty issue. So better to deal with big players or factories directly as its harder for them to move around and to avoid responsibility.

Regards
Kenji

I've posted the following respose on another thread but there are so many threads about scammers on Alibaba and most of them seem to be about China, but then it does have a rather large population:

I have spent some time looking at this and other sites for a trustworthy supplier. I have read the comments about Alibaba's issuing of "Gold Member" and Trustpass certificates and comments from supporter(s?) of Alibaba criticising Free members for wanting something for nothing. What is Alibaba's aim - is it to provide a vehicle for suppliers to find buyers, for buyers to find suppliers, or both?

If it is for the first option you would expect the suppliers to pay for the privilege of advertising their wares, but why should the buyer pay? So if you are a Free member because you are a buyer, what is wrong with that and why should it affect your right to complain, particularly when Alibaba claims to have a system of identifying trustworthy suppliers? Alibaba are doing a disservice to genuine suppliers by offering "Gold Member" and Trustpass cerificates to all and sundry without any apparent checks or controls, resulting in the state of affairs we have now, where the majority of posts in the Forums are about scammers and not about good suppliers, or praise for Alibaba from suppliers and buyers who have found each other through the site. Genuine suppliers must feel cheated that they have invested in the site and can't get business because they are lost in a sea of scammers.

Alibaba have even been accused of being in league with the scammers. There is certainly no doubt that Alibaba profits from their existence even if they aren't in league with them. In fact Alibaba also profits from the numerous complaints about scammers, since they are given a reason to remove them from the site - in which case the scammer has to go to the expense of re-applying under a different name (more money in Alibaba's coffers). Alibaba should take on more staff so that they can keep up to date with the number of complaints they get - there must be a good business case for the additional staff, since there never seems to be a reduction in the number of scammers (either new or old one's re-applying).

What's the solution? It has been suggested on more than one occasion, once by myself in a survey initiated by Alibaba and at least once by another member posting in the Forums, that there should be a customer rating of suppliers similar to ebay or Amazon. The genuine suppliers could also help themselves by being more flexible in their payment options, i.e. offering means of payment that give the buyer some protection. That would quickly sort out the wheat from the chaff. Alibaba should be encouraging suppliers to consider this. Alibaba also ought to consider involving a reputable escrow service (with a commission to Alibaba for each transaction). It's obviously going to be a little more expensive for one or more of the parties involved in a transaction, but it should only be necessary until a good trading relationship has developed. This has to be driven by Alibaba and they need to stress to suppliers how important it is to ensure buyer confidence in the initial stages of the trading relationship. Perhaps when the site earns a reputatation for providing only reliable suppliers the will find that buyers are willing to pay to join.