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We have checked out dozens of Chinese companies for friends worldwide this year. Some of the companies, even the Gold members of Alibaba turned out to be a business scammer in China. Your business cannot legally protected by Chinese government authorities if you're dealing with illegal Chinese companies. Hence, it's very important to verify your business partner as there are more and more business frauds coming forth in China. Here are my tips for you to verify a Chinese company:
Generally speaking, there are some links online for you to check out companies in China:
www.yp.net.cn
www.chinaeall.com
www.cnaic.org.cn
www.114win.com
etc
However, there is no English version of above services so far in China, you have to know a little Chinese to check it all by yourself. Also some of the companies did not register themselves with above yellow pages. So yellow page is not the key way to judge a business scammer in China! The best way to check out a supplier in China is to visit them in person or check them out with local government authorities in China.
If you don't know Chinese, still you can pre-verify your business partners from following aspects:
1. Contact information
Please note that whether their contact information is right or not, most of the scammers don't offer a right address, tel and fax number online. Some of the tel numbers are empty and some add and tel don't exist at all, they don't offer a company tel number, a private number or mobile phone number instead.
2. Registered corporate number
Every legal company in China has to register itself with Chinese government authortities and obtain an unique company number. If your business partner cannot offer you a unique registered corporate number, definitely he is a scammer, of course, he may submit you a fake number, so you have to check it out with local administrative government organs with the number he offered. There is a Chinese organ called Bureau of Industry & Commerce ( have branches at all levels ), which is the only government organ responsible for the registration of legitimate companies or enterprises in China. For example, for any legitimate companies from Changsha or Hunan province, you can contact the local administrative organ for confirmation: http://www.csaic.gov.cn/ Tel: 86-731-2891606 or http://www.hunancom.gov.cn/ Tel: 86-731-2287058 , the problem is you have to report your case in Chinese sometimes because most of the local officials do not know too much English in China.
3. Incredibly low prices, esp for international brands
Most of Chinese scammers usually entice foreigners with a very low price. If the prices they offered is too low to believe, you may have a further investigation on your partner to know why their prices are so low. Most of the scammers in China profit a lot by selling replicas or fakes of some branded goods to the overseas market, this is very risky because the goods shall be confiscated or detained by Chinese customs houses in case it considered illegal in China. By the way, please remember that the price for authentic /original brands like Sony, Apple, Nokia, Dell etc should be almost the same at anywhere on the globe. You cannot import from the unthorized brands distributors with cheaper price in China. They must be selling relicas, refurbished ones or copies of brands etc ! Please simply forget such suppliers in China !
4. Payment and shipment terms
The scammers never accept L/C as their payment terms, they prefer Western Union, Paypal and T/T etc. Also they never deliver goods through formal channels in China, they prefer to deliver samples by Express like Fedex, TNT, EMS to avoid more examinations from Chinese customs house. Most of the scammers use Private Bank Accounts in China!
5. Warranty and after sale services
Scammers never take some measures to guarantee their quality and after-sale services after your payment, they may promise you a lot before payment. It's lip-services only!!!
Be careful with some of the Chinese suppliers!
By the way, I have to mention that, it does not mean the manufacturer has the right to sell or buy in case he has obtained a legitimate unique company number from local BIC in China. In China, all the enterprises with the right to import and export has to apply and obtain a certificate called Certificate of Import & Export from Ministry of Commerce of PRC and its authorized local organs in China after their registration at local BIC. Also a formal trade company has to register with Chinese Customs House and its branches before his formal business with foreign counterparts in China. Then he has to register himself with local Bureau of Inspection & Quarantine in case his products are in need of quality control. Without the registration from above local government authorities from China, no company can deal with you in formal channels in China. Contact me for details when you need verification and other business services in China. ![]()
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Don't buy anything from demielectricals. This is a fake companey, you will loose you money. More info: www.demielectricals.tkJerome want's to thank all the people who did transfer their money.
Be warned.
Quoting from [Magic1122]:
Quoting from [Business in China]:
Sorry I left the full infos of the company so here it is:Demielectricals International Trading Co., Ltd.
15Th Floor,Building D SanXin garden ,SanMing District,XiaMen city,Fajian Province, China.
TEL : 86-0592-8751157 FAX : 86-0592-8751157 CELL PHONE : 860-150-6033-1960
Email: demielectricals@hotmail.com website: www.demielectricals.comThe VAT number is 3505032003489
Thanks for your helping,
Balint
Hello !
Scammers are everywhere in the world...Just do be carefull while making foreign businesses.
As a trader located in Taiwan,i just deal with companies that i visited before ,and who offer me very fair prices for my customers.
Made in Taiwan is slicely expensiver than made in china,but the quality is higher.
You must see what is important for your busines: the price,the quality and the reliability of your suppliers.
Anyway,you can contact me if you need made in Taiwan products.
Have a nice day !
Bony
Hello and thank you for this post. I hope I am not too late in my process to research this. I have ordered a shipment from a company in Putian China, the exact address and business name are below.
Quoting from [sgrsteve]:Hello and thank you for this post. I hope I am not too late in my process to research this. I have ordered a shipment from a company in Putian China, the exact address and business name are below.
Mainland Lolly Global Trading Co.,Ltd
Add: 203# - 808, Building 1, Meiyu Rd, Putian, Fujian, China
The provided me with a document that has the apple logo on it, but writing is in broken English and there is some Chinese written on it. The sales Manager claims his name is Kyle Hanks. Some other information that was included on this document was
Authorized agent's Register # 3505102001854.
The Authroized agent's VAT # CN834-884-011-67 RCS488-401-167
I have been speaking with this gentleman over the web. I was convinced this was legitimate, and went ahead and posted some listings on ebay. One sold, they told me they would drop ship the product, so I accepted payment through paypal and paid out of my own pocket via western Union. $1066 US dollars. I have been told I will get a tracking number and the packages will be shipped tomorrow, one is coming to me.
I fear as though I might have been scammed, caught up in the beautiful numbers and the prospect of leaving the 9-5! Lust for money is the root of all evil, the Bible got it wrong, love is a healthy emotion I just wanted a one night stand.
I am sure you are quite a busy man and I do not know if you will read this, but if you do, please point me in the right direction to find out if this company is legitimate. If it is not, perhaps you can tell me the right steps to take to get this resolved with 1. my buyer on ebay. 2. My paypal account, 3. my ebay account. and 4. Least important getting my money back. I am not a wealthy man but if they got me they got me and I do not want to drink my own poison worrying about catching a dirty company.
I think you've been scammed by this supplier from Putian, China. No international brands with cheaper prices available from China! Please be careful next time, please feel free to ask me any question related.
Quoting from [Business in China]:Quoting from [sgrsteve]:Hello and thank you for this post. I hope I am not too late in my process to research this. I have ordered a shipment from a company in Putian China, the exact address and business name are below.
Mainland Lolly Global Trading Co.,Ltd
Add: 203# - 808, Building 1, Meiyu Rd, Putian, Fujian, China
The provided me with a document that has the apple logo on it, but writing is in broken English and there is some Chinese written on it. The sales Manager claims his name is Kyle Hanks. Some other information that was included on this document was
Authorized agent's Register # 3505102001854.
The Authroized agent's VAT # CN834-884-011-67 RCS488-401-167
I have been speaking with this gentleman over the web. I was convinced this was legitimate, and went ahead and posted some listings on ebay. One sold, they told me they would drop ship the product, so I accepted payment through paypal and paid out of my own pocket via western Union. $1066 US dollars. I have been told I will get a tracking number and the packages will be shipped tomorrow, one is coming to me.
I fear as though I might have been scammed, caught up in the beautiful numbers and the prospect of leaving the 9-5! Lust for money is the root of all evil, the Bible got it wrong, love is a healthy emotion I just wanted a one night stand.
I am sure you are quite a busy man and I do not know if you will read this, but if you do, please point me in the right direction to find out if this company is legitimate. If it is not, perhaps you can tell me the right steps to take to get this resolved with 1. my buyer on ebay. 2. My paypal account, 3. my ebay account. and 4. Least important getting my money back. I am not a wealthy man but if they got me they got me and I do not want to drink my own poison worrying about catching a dirty company.
I think you've been scammed by this supplier from Putian, China. No international brands with cheaper prices available from China! Please be careful next time, please feel free to ask me any question related.
Quoting from [campbelllaw]:
please take a look at these companies for me.
1) www.ectow.com
registration # 3503024215732
2) hittoptrade@hotmail.com
:T/T
BENEFICIARY INSTITUTION: BANK OF CHINA PUTIAN BRANCH
SWIFT: BKCHCNBJ73C
PAYEE: CHEN JIAN SHAN
BEN’S ACCOUNT: 4552301—0188—101384----4
company's address:no.243 fujing street ,putian city,fujian province,china.
Here is our office number:086-592-8751157/86-592-8751157
Quoting from [campbelllaw]:
please take a look at these companies for me.
1) www.ectow.com
registration # 3503024215732
2) hittoptrade@hotmail.com
:T/T
BENEFICIARY INSTITUTION: BANK OF CHINA PUTIAN BRANCH
SWIFT: BKCHCNBJ73C
PAYEE: CHEN JIAN SHAN
BEN’S ACCOUNT: 4552301—0188—101384----4
company's address:no.243 fujing street ,putian city,fujian province,china.
Here is our office number:086-592-8751157/86-592-8751157
Did you ever find out if ectow.com was a legitimate supplier?
you need verification and other business services in China.
I need to verify a supplier i found on this website. the company name is Hiable Enterprises Inc
the contact details on their website is
HIABLE ENTERPRISES,INC
TEL : 86 532 85848792
FAX : 86 532 85840651
EMAIL hiablehair@hotmail.com
ADDRESS : YISHIYIJIA1501,NO.6 MINJIANG ROAD
QINGDAO,266071,CHINA
MANAGE : MAILBOX MANAGE