Tips for you to verify Chinese companies !
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We have checked out dozens of Chinese companies for friends worldwide this year. Some of the companies, even the Gold members of Alibaba turned out to be a business scammer in China. Your business cannot legally protected by Chinese government authorities if you're dealing with illegal Chinese companies. Hence, it's very important to verify your business partner as there are more and more business frauds coming forth in China. Here are my tips for you to verify a Chinese company:

Generally speaking, there are some links online for you to check out companies in China:
www.yp.net.cn
www.chinaeall.com
www.cnaic.org.cn
www.114win.com
etc
However, there is no English version of above services so far in China, you have to know a little Chinese to check it all by yourself. Also some of the companies did not register themselves with above yellow pages. So yellow page is not the key way to judge a business scammer in China! The best way to check out a supplier in China is to visit them in person or check them out with local government authorities in China.

If you don't know Chinese, still you can pre-verify your business partners from following aspects:

1. Contact information
Please note that whether their contact information is right or not, most of the scammers don't offer a right address, tel and fax number online. Some of the tel numbers are empty and some add and tel don't exist at all, they don't offer a company tel number, a private number or mobile phone number instead.

2. Registered corporate number
Every legal company in China has to register itself with Chinese government authortities and obtain an unique company number. If your business partner cannot offer you a unique registered corporate number, definitely he is a scammer, of course, he may submit you a fake number, so you have to check it out with local administrative government organs with the number he offered. There is a Chinese organ called Bureau of Industry & Commerce ( have branches at all levels ), which is the only government organ responsible for the registration of legitimate companies or enterprises in China. For example, for any legitimate companies from Changsha or Hunan province, you can contact the local administrative organ for confirmation: http://www.csaic.gov.cn/ Tel: 86-731-2891606 or http://www.hunancom.gov.cn/ Tel: 86-731-2287058 , the problem is you have to report your case in Chinese sometimes because most of the local officials do not know too much English in China.

3. Incredibly low prices, esp for international brands
Most of Chinese scammers usually entice foreigners with a very low price. If the prices they offered is too low to believe, you may have a further investigation on your partner to know why their prices are so low. Most of the scammers in China profit a lot by selling replicas or fakes of some branded goods to the overseas market, this is very risky because the goods shall be confiscated or detained by Chinese customs houses in case it considered illegal in China. By the way, please remember that the price for authentic /original brands like Sony, Apple, Nokia, Dell etc should be almost the same at anywhere on the globe. You cannot import from the unthorized brands distributors with cheaper price in China. They must be selling relicas, refurbished ones or copies of brands etc ! Please simply forget such suppliers in China !

4. Payment and shipment terms
The scammers never accept L/C as their payment terms, they prefer Western Union, Paypal and T/T etc. Also they never deliver goods through formal channels in China, they prefer to deliver samples by Express like Fedex, TNT, EMS to avoid more examinations from Chinese customs house. Most of the scammers use Private Bank Accounts in China!

5. Warranty and after sale services
Scammers never take some measures to guarantee their quality and after-sale services after your payment, they may promise you a lot before payment. It's lip-services only!!!

Be careful with some of the Chinese suppliers!
By the way, I have to mention that, it does not mean the manufacturer has the right to sell or buy in case he has obtained a legitimate unique company number from local BIC in China. In China, all the enterprises with the right to import and export has to apply and obtain a certificate called Certificate of Import & Export from Ministry of Commerce of PRC and its authorized local organs in China after their registration at local BIC. Also a formal trade company has to register with Chinese Customs House and its branches before his formal business with foreign counterparts in China. Then he has to register himself with local Bureau of Inspection & Quarantine in case his products are in need of quality control. Without the registration from above local government authorities from China, no company can deal with you in formal channels in China. Contact me for details when you need verification and other business services in China. [em1][em1]



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Don't buy anything from demielectricals. This is a fake companey, you will loose you money. More info: www.demielectricals.tk

Jerome want's to thank all the people who did transfer their money.

Be warned.[em15]

 

Quoting from [Magic1122]:

Quoting from [Business in China]:

 




Sorry I left the full infos of the company so here it is:

Demielectricals International Trading Co., Ltd.


15Th Floor,Building D SanXin garden ,SanMing District,XiaMen city,Fajian Province, China.


TEL : 86-0592-8751157     FAX : 86-0592-8751157  CELL PHONE : 860-150-6033-1960


Email:    demielectricals@hotmail.com    website: www.demielectricals.com

The VAT number is 3505032003489

Thanks for your helping,

Balint

 


01 Oct 2008 08:03
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Hello  !

Scammers are everywhere in the world...Just do be carefull while making foreign businesses.

As a trader located in Taiwan,i just deal with companies that i visited before ,and who offer me  very fair prices for my customers.

Made in Taiwan is slicely expensiver than made in china,but the quality is higher.

You must see what is important for your busines: the price,the quality  and the reliability of your  suppliers.

Anyway,you can contact me if you need made in Taiwan products.

 

Have  a nice day !

 

Bony

 

14 Oct 2008 00:01
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Hello and thank you for this post. I hope I am not too late in my process to research this. I have ordered a shipment from a company in Putian China, the exact address and business name are below.


Mainland Lolly Global Trading Co.,Ltd

Add: 203# - 808, Building 1, Meiyu Rd, Putian, Fujian, China



The provided me with a document that has the apple logo on it, but writing is in broken English and there is some Chinese written on it. The sales Manager claims his name is Kyle Hanks. Some other information that was included on this document was


Authorized agent's Register # 3505102001854.

The Authroized agent's VAT # CN834-884-011-67 RCS488-401-167


I have been speaking with this gentleman over the web. I was convinced this was legitimate, and went ahead and posted some listings on ebay. One sold, they told me they would drop ship the product, so I accepted payment through paypal and paid out of my own pocket via western Union. $1066 US dollars. I have been told I will get a tracking number and the packages will be shipped tomorrow, one is coming to me.


I fear as though I might have been scammed, caught up in the beautiful numbers and the prospect of leaving the 9-5! Lust for money is the root of all evil, the Bible got it wrong, love is a healthy emotion I just wanted a one night stand.


I am sure you are quite a busy man and I do not know if you will read this, but if you do, please point me in the right direction to find out if this company is legitimate. If it is not, perhaps you can tell me the right steps to take to get this resolved with 1. my buyer on ebay. 2. My paypal account, 3. my ebay account. and 4. Least important getting my money back. I am not a wealthy man but if they got me they got me and I do not want to drink my own poison worrying about catching a dirty company.


On the upside if they do somehow in the realm of impossible possiblities check out I will be exstatic. Regardless, if you require payment to help me, I am just above very very low middle class so I can afford whatever you will charge, but go easy on me =). Thank you for this post and your time. God Bless.




17 Oct 2008 16:38
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Quoting from [sgrsteve]:


Hello and thank you for this post. I hope I am not too late in my process to research this. I have ordered a shipment from a company in Putian China, the exact address and business name are below.



Mainland Lolly Global Trading Co.,Ltd


Add: 203# - 808, Building 1, Meiyu Rd, Putian, Fujian, China




The provided me with a document that has the apple logo on it, but writing is in broken English and there is some Chinese written on it. The sales Manager claims his name is Kyle Hanks. Some other information that was included on this document was



Authorized agent's Register # 3505102001854.


The Authroized agent's VAT # CN834-884-011-67 RCS488-401-167



I have been speaking with this gentleman over the web. I was convinced this was legitimate, and went ahead and posted some listings on ebay. One sold, they told me they would drop ship the product, so I accepted payment through paypal and paid out of my own pocket via western Union. $1066 US dollars. I have been told I will get a tracking number and the packages will be shipped tomorrow, one is coming to me.



I fear as though I might have been scammed, caught up in the beautiful numbers and the prospect of leaving the 9-5! Lust for money is the root of all evil, the Bible got it wrong, love is a healthy emotion I just wanted a one night stand.



I am sure you are quite a busy man and I do not know if you will read this, but if you do, please point me in the right direction to find out if this company is legitimate. If it is not, perhaps you can tell me the right steps to take to get this resolved with 1. my buyer on ebay. 2. My paypal account, 3. my ebay account. and 4. Least important getting my money back. I am not a wealthy man but if they got me they got me and I do not want to drink my own poison worrying about catching a dirty company.



 

I think you've been scammed by this supplier from Putian, China. No international brands with cheaper prices available from China! Please be careful next time, please feel free to ask me any question related.


18 Oct 2008 18:35
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Hello-
can you possibly verify a company? We requested they provide
Authorized Agent and Company registration. This was their reply:


Thanks for your soon reply , since you want to check our company registration number and Authorized agent's Register number .it proofs you have sincere to cooperate with us , We sure glad to supply all details of our company you want , please check information below :

Company registration number : 440300709206121
Authorized agent's Register number : 4403011260830


If you can help with this we would be very grateful. We were recently defrauded by another Trust Pass/Gold member of Alibaba and are very skeptical. We have told them we will only pay via L/C.

thank you




Quoting from [Business in China]:

Quoting from [sgrsteve]:


Hello and thank you for this post. I hope I am not too late in my process to research this. I have ordered a shipment from a company in Putian China, the exact address and business name are below.



Mainland Lolly Global Trading Co.,Ltd


Add: 203# - 808, Building 1, Meiyu Rd, Putian, Fujian, China




The provided me with a document that has the apple logo on it, but writing is in broken English and there is some Chinese written on it. The sales Manager claims his name is Kyle Hanks. Some other information that was included on this document was



Authorized agent's Register # 3505102001854.


The Authroized agent's VAT # CN834-884-011-67 RCS488-401-167



I have been speaking with this gentleman over the web. I was convinced this was legitimate, and went ahead and posted some listings on ebay. One sold, they told me they would drop ship the product, so I accepted payment through paypal and paid out of my own pocket via western Union. $1066 US dollars. I have been told I will get a tracking number and the packages will be shipped tomorrow, one is coming to me.



I fear as though I might have been scammed, caught up in the beautiful numbers and the prospect of leaving the 9-5! Lust for money is the root of all evil, the Bible got it wrong, love is a healthy emotion I just wanted a one night stand.



I am sure you are quite a busy man and I do not know if you will read this, but if you do, please point me in the right direction to find out if this company is legitimate. If it is not, perhaps you can tell me the right steps to take to get this resolved with 1. my buyer on ebay. 2. My paypal account, 3. my ebay account. and 4. Least important getting my money back. I am not a wealthy man but if they got me they got me and I do not want to drink my own poison worrying about catching a dirty company.



 

I think you've been scammed by this supplier from Putian, China. No international brands with cheaper prices available from China! Please be careful next time, please feel free to ask me any question related.



04 Nov 2008 10:39
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Hi good day, I am studying a company 6th gold in Alibaba, the name is: China Direct Exports Inc.  in Alibaba.

The web is a direct http://www.exports.cn, but this page is not working very well, does not allow the shares offered for example.

Just accept Terms of Payment: T / T, Western Union, Paypal

Legal Representative / Business Owner: Mr. Yang Zhen.

I search Google ¨¨Zhen Yang scam¨¨ and a person with the same name was assassinated in England by scams on the Internet at football matches ... Will it be the same, or are there many Zhen Yang in China?

Please can you verify this company?

Thank you

Dany
10 Nov 2008 03:58
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Quoting from [campbelllaw]:

please take a look at these companies for me.

1) www.ectow.com
registration # 3503024215732


2) hittoptrade@hotmail.com
:T/T
BENEFICIARY INSTITUTION: BANK OF CHINA PUTIAN BRANCH
SWIFT: BKCHCNBJ73C
PAYEE: CHEN JIAN SHAN
BEN’S ACCOUNT: 4552301—0188—101384----4
company's address:no.243 fujing street ,putian city,fujian province,china.
Here is our office number:086-592-8751157/86-592-8751157



12 Nov 2008 11:20
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Quoting from [campbelllaw]:


please take a look at these companies for me.


1) www.ectow.com

registration # 3503024215732



2) hittoptrade@hotmail.com

:T/T

BENEFICIARY INSTITUTION: BANK OF CHINA PUTIAN BRANCH

SWIFT: BKCHCNBJ73C

PAYEE: CHEN JIAN SHAN

BEN’S ACCOUNT: 4552301—0188—101384----4

company's address:no.243 fujing street ,putian city,fujian province,china.

Here is our office number:086-592-8751157/86-592-8751157


Did you ever find out if ectow.com was a legitimate supplier?


di
12 Nov 2008 11:21
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I really feel very sad when I find that so many companies around the world have doubts of the reputation of Chinese companies,  Yeah, swindlers are around the world,so we should be carefully when we do business with  new clients. And  as Chinese, I hope the swindlers in China will be eradicated and we can create an excellent  environment for our clients from the worldwide. And also hope the cheaters in the world will disppear, It is my hope here ,and I think it is also the hope for all the people.
12 Nov 2008 22:00
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you need verification and other business services in China. [em1][em1]

 

I need to verify a supplier i found on this website. the company name is Hiable Enterprises Inc

the contact details on their website is

HIABLE ENTERPRISES,INC

TEL : 86 532 85848792

FAX : 86 532 85840651

EMAIL
hiablehair@hotmail.com
ADDRESS : YISHIYIJIA1501,NO.6 MINJIANG ROAD

QINGDAO,266071,CHINA

MANAGE :
MAILBOX MANAGE

15 Nov 2008 12:34
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