Tips for you to verify Chinese companies !
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We have checked out dozens of Chinese companies for friends worldwide this year. Some of the companies, even the Gold members of Alibaba turned out to be a business scammer in China. Your business cannot legally protected by Chinese government authorities if you're dealing with illegal Chinese companies. Hence, it's very important to verify your business partner as there are more and more business frauds coming forth in China. Here are my tips for you to verify a Chinese company:

Generally speaking, there are some links online for you to check out companies in China:
www.yp.net.cn
www.chinaeall.com
www.cnaic.org.cn
www.114win.com
etc
However, there is no English version of above services so far in China, you have to know a little Chinese to check it all by yourself. Also some of the companies did not register themselves with above yellow pages. So yellow page is not the key way to judge a business scammer in China! The best way to check out a supplier in China is to visit them in person or check them out with local government authorities in China.

If you don't know Chinese, still you can pre-verify your business partners from following aspects:

1. Contact information
Please note that whether their contact information is right or not, most of the scammers don't offer a right address, tel and fax number online. Some of the tel numbers are empty and some add and tel don't exist at all, they don't offer a company tel number, a private number or mobile phone number instead.

2. Registered corporate number
Every legal company in China has to register itself with Chinese government authortities and obtain an unique company number. If your business partner cannot offer you a unique registered corporate number, definitely he is a scammer, of course, he may submit you a fake number, so you have to check it out with local administrative government organs with the number he offered. There is a Chinese organ called Bureau of Industry & Commerce ( have branches at all levels ), which is the only government organ responsible for the registration of legitimate companies or enterprises in China. For example, for any legitimate companies from Changsha or Hunan province, you can contact the local administrative organ for confirmation: http://www.csaic.gov.cn/ Tel: 86-731-2891606 or http://www.hunancom.gov.cn/ Tel: 86-731-2287058 , the problem is you have to report your case in Chinese sometimes because most of the local officials do not know too much English in China.

3. Incredibly low prices, esp for international brands
Most of Chinese scammers usually entice foreigners with a very low price. If the prices they offered is too low to believe, you may have a further investigation on your partner to know why their prices are so low. Most of the scammers in China profit a lot by selling replicas or fakes of some branded goods to the overseas market, this is very risky because the goods shall be confiscated or detained by Chinese customs houses in case it considered illegal in China. By the way, please remember that the price for authentic /original brands like Sony, Apple, Nokia, Dell etc should be almost the same at anywhere on the globe. You cannot import from the unthorized brands distributors with cheaper price in China. They must be selling relicas, refurbished ones or copies of brands etc ! Please simply forget such suppliers in China !

4. Payment and shipment terms
The scammers never accept L/C as their payment terms, they prefer Western Union, Paypal and T/T etc. Also they never deliver goods through formal channels in China, they prefer to deliver samples by Express like Fedex, TNT, EMS to avoid more examinations from Chinese customs house. Most of the scammers use Private Bank Accounts in China!

5. Warranty and after sale services
Scammers never take some measures to guarantee their quality and after-sale services after your payment, they may promise you a lot before payment. It's lip-services only!!!

Be careful with some of the Chinese suppliers!
By the way, I have to mention that, it does not mean the manufacturer has the right to sell or buy in case he has obtained a legitimate unique company number from local BIC in China. In China, all the enterprises with the right to import and export has to apply and obtain a certificate called Certificate of Import & Export from Ministry of Commerce of PRC and its authorized local organs in China after their registration at local BIC. Also a formal trade company has to register with Chinese Customs House and its branches before his formal business with foreign counterparts in China. Then he has to register himself with local Bureau of Inspection & Quarantine in case his products are in need of quality control. Without the registration from above local government authorities from China, no company can deal with you in formal channels in China. Contact me for details when you need verification and other business services in China. [em1][em1]



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Re:Business in China

What you said is just some common sense.I can find it in any books on my desk. I do not why you are so shameless to boast it.  Don't forget that you are a chinese.May be you don't have the sense in your mind.Do not forget that scammers do not exist only in China but all over the world.They can be both buyer and suppliers. 

Irreproachability that you want to do your business. But can you change your way? Please do not affront all the honest chinese. I guess may be you are a really scamer yourself! Who can testify the one that do not love his country?

I have seen all your answers in this topic. I find that you havn't done any inquisition toward the companys at all. What you said is just common sense without any evidence.    

09 Aug 2008 01:35
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Quoting from [jason-0525]:

Re:Business in China

What you said is just some common sense.I can find it in any books on my desk. I do not why you are so shameless to boast it.  Don't forget that you are a chinese.May be you don't have the sense in your mind.Do not forget that scammers do not exist only in China but all over the world.They can be both buyer and suppliers. 

Irreproachability that you want to do your business. But can you change your way? Please do not affront all the honest chinese. I guess may be you are a really scamer yourself! Who can testify the one that do not love his country?

I have seen all your answers in this topic. I find that you havn't done any inquisition toward the companys at all. What you said is just common sense without any evidence.    



[em1][em1] Don't worry, Jason. My articles have nothing to do with your business in China.

1.  Yes, what I mentioned here are all common sense in China. You're a Chinese but the problem is that some foreign buyers even do not know any common sense in China. My team and I have offered countless business service to foreign buyers and sellers worldwide. As a moderator here on the forum, I offered countless Free consultation service to foreign buyers worldwide. Of course we're qualified enough to be an agent and service provider in China as we are a registered company in Changsha, China. I admit part of my answers are not informative or impressive enough, but some of my answers are good enough to foreign guests.   

2.  I'm working as a service provider in China, which has nothing to do with your business. you do not have to blame my articles or opinions online. We can meet and have a face-to-face discussion at any times in China.

3. You mentioned that my team and I are not helpful to foreign buyers and sellers ??? It's ridiculous, please have a look at my following thread and you can find that we're powerful enough sometimes. We have lawyers, professional QC inspectors and auditors working for us in China: http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/332438/What_can_you_do_if_you_get_scammed_in_China_.htm

Any comments regarding my work and service are welcome at any times!  I'm trying to improve myself day by day in China!

10 Aug 2008 03:29
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Hi,

i found your advice very informative and was wondering if you can help me verify a company i'm talking with in China, as most of those sites you mentioned are in chinses and i cannot use them!.  here is their info:

1. registered company name: WuHan oversea trade Co., Ltd!


2. Company business registration number:3502659858742


3. Export license number: 3306025000175


4. Address: 362th GuiHua Road, XianNing, HuBei, China


5. Zip/Postal: 471000


6. contact person: Mr. Steven

Address: 362th GuiHua Road, XianNing, China
Zip/Postal: 471000
Telephone: 86-0591-22640806
Fax: 86-0591-22640806
Email: supplyontradekey@hotmail.com

any help you can give on this company will be greatly appreciated.  thanks.

Feras Mash

Transatlantic Traders, Inc.

 

 

Quoting from [Business in China]:

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We have checked out dozens of Chinese companies for friends worldwide this year. Some of the companies, even the Gold members of Alibaba turned out to be a business scammer in China. Your business cannot legally protected by Chinese government authorities if you're dealing with illegal Chinese companies. Hence, it's very important to verify your business partner as there are more and more business frauds coming forth in China. Here are my tips for you to verify a Chinese company:


Generally speaking, there are some links online for you to check out companies in China:

www.yp.net.cn

www.chinaeall.com

www.cnaic.org.cn

www.114win.com

etc


14 Aug 2008 06:57
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  This is a very silly scammer, please simply forget it and turn to better suppliers in China. Almost all their information online are wrong...



16 Aug 2008 01:23
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Hello,

I am interested in doing business with this company and i'm not sure if they are legit. I talked to them on the phone and the numbers were correct but perhaps you can give me a better tip. This is my first time doing business and i would like to buy some GPS products from them. I am aware they are non brand name but that is not a problem. Can you please check them for me and let me know what you think?

Company Name: Witshine Tech. Limited

Address: 1309 Futian Building, Futian District, Shenzhen, Guangdong, China

Thanks

20 Aug 2008 10:19
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i would like to know if someone knows  this company, well absully i only have ther mail and pages on line, are called lbc_nike.com, alibabakey.com, nike 8848.com.  do you know if i can trust in them?  Please contact me as soon as posibble.

edgar

26 Aug 2008 22:44
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Quoting from [edgar1913]:

i would like to know if someone knows  this company, well absully i only have ther mail and pages on line, are called lbc_nike.com, alibabakey.com, nike 8848.com.  do you know if i can trust in them?  Please contact me as soon as posibble.

edgar



Forget them and run away as quickly as you can..[em3]
27 Aug 2008 04:45
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Good Morning Sir;

First thank you very much for the information.

I am a small business man in USA and I have a web site for Mens Underwear.

I was recently approached by a chinese underwear manufacturer wanting to partner with me.

can you give me a quote for your service to Verify this company?

thank you very much.

Michael Mann

MTC Global Enterprises LLC
mtcglobal@yahoo.com
www.bestmensunderwear.com

253-318-2113

Yuanxiang Garment & Weaving co.,ltd

Willy will86518@tom.com

0086-585-88296986

fax-0086-595-88295986

Mobile-13860127986

Again thank you very much for your help in this matter.

Michael

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04 Sep 2008 07:19
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Could someone please checkout this company for me www.e-golfcart.com I have done what i can but still am unsure about them. I would like a little help on them.

Much appreciated

06 Sep 2008 16:22
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Be careful with some of the Chinese suppliers!

By the way, I have to mention that, it does not mean the manufacturer has the right to sell or buy in case he has obtained a legitimate unique company number from local BIC in China. In China, all the enterprises with the right to import and export has to apply and obtain a certificate called Certificate of Import & Export from Ministry of Commerce of PRC and its authorized local organs in China after their registration at local BIC. Also a formal trade company has to register with Chinese Customs House and its branches before his formal business with foreign counterparts in China. Then he has to register himself with local Bureau of Inspection & Quarantine in case his products are in need of quality control. Without the registration from above local government authorities from China, no company can deal with you in formal channels in China. Contact me for details when you need verification and other business services in China. [em1][em1]

Hy!

Can help me in verifiing a Chinese company?

They give me this VAT number: 3505032003489

Please help me in checking this number!

Thanks for everything,

Balint

08 Sep 2008 09:50
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