Acid test for scammers, our experience
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We have found that in our attempts to engage suppliers to talk is easy.
Where we initially found that only an IP trace would weed out the geographically incorrect suppliers it did little to cut the number of persons attempting to scam.
We have not put into place a multi-point policy to "acid test" for scammers.
1. To IP trace to ensure they are where they claim to be.
2. Cut communication at the sighting of Western Union only
3. To offer the use of an escrow agent, either escrow.com or escrowaustralia.com or a law firm recommended by the district courts
4. To ask for a cash and carry price
5. To ask just once for their corporate ID number
6. To check the local phone book
Of the over 200 potential suppliers contacted, we have found about 10 that we can validate and are prepared to trade with.
I realise this may sound long winded, but the use of these simple acid tests has kept us from falling foul of those who would seek to scam.
Proudly, we are currently importing over USD20,000 a month from those who are real, thanks to Alibaba.
If you believe we have missed a step, please feel free to make mention. For those new, I hope that they may learn an easier lesson.
John
Where we initially found that only an IP trace would weed out the geographically incorrect suppliers it did little to cut the number of persons attempting to scam.
We have not put into place a multi-point policy to "acid test" for scammers.
1. To IP trace to ensure they are where they claim to be.
2. Cut communication at the sighting of Western Union only
3. To offer the use of an escrow agent, either escrow.com or escrowaustralia.com or a law firm recommended by the district courts
4. To ask for a cash and carry price
5. To ask just once for their corporate ID number
6. To check the local phone book
Of the over 200 potential suppliers contacted, we have found about 10 that we can validate and are prepared to trade with.
I realise this may sound long winded, but the use of these simple acid tests has kept us from falling foul of those who would seek to scam.
Proudly, we are currently importing over USD20,000 a month from those who are real, thanks to Alibaba.
If you believe we have missed a step, please feel free to make mention. For those new, I hope that they may learn an easier lesson.
John
19 Sep 2006 19:23
Post 2 of 7
Replying to [JohnRC]:
Hallo,
it is a nice listing, but why you not use it and have to ask for help, as in your yesterdays posting about:
Company Information required, Planet Cellular Ltd
regards
John
It is easy when using your list, to get the same result, "he is a scammer", as you now get from other members !
I think a businessman who filtered 10 good from over 200 suppliers since his participation to Alibaba at 22.August 2006, now making over US$ 20.000 monthly conversion, with help of Alibaba, could do a requst alone ! Or did your experience come last night ?
rgds
Wilhelm
Hallo,
it is a nice listing, but why you not use it and have to ask for help, as in your yesterdays posting about:
Company Information required, Planet Cellular Ltd
regards
John
It is easy when using your list, to get the same result, "he is a scammer", as you now get from other members !
I think a businessman who filtered 10 good from over 200 suppliers since his participation to Alibaba at 22.August 2006, now making over US$ 20.000 monthly conversion, with help of Alibaba, could do a requst alone ! Or did your experience come last night ?
rgds
Wilhelm
19 Sep 2006 21:30
Post 3 of 7
Replying to [wilhelm]: mate, its called giving some one the benefit of the doubt,, besides if I was always right, the world would be a very boring place,, wouldn't it
JC
JC
20 Sep 2006 00:23
Post 4 of 7
Replying to [JohnRC]:
If you know trustable company from indonesia , could you please send me list ? Thank you![[em1]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_smile.gif)
If you know trustable company from indonesia , could you please send me list ? Thank you
20 Sep 2006 00:49
Post 5 of 7
Replying to [JohnRC]:
Please you do not supply other members with invented data and statements!
Some makes itself thereby wrong hoping and expectations !
rgds
Wilhelm
Please you do not supply other members with invented data and statements!
Some makes itself thereby wrong hoping and expectations !
rgds
Wilhelm
20 Sep 2006 01:06
Post 6 of 7
Replying to [wilhelm]: Sunshine, I don't spent the entire day in the forums, I have a company to run and mandates to fulfill.
This is not a hobbie, this is the real world,, welcome.
Comments like yours only show bitterness, get a grip or move on
This is not a hobbie, this is the real world,, welcome.
Comments like yours only show bitterness, get a grip or move on
21 Sep 2006 00:05
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Replying to [JohnRC]:
Hope you have a fine work !
I have retired and can help others, but only with true stories and not with fairytales like you !
rgds
Wilhelm
Hope you have a fine work !
I have retired and can help others, but only with true stories and not with fairytales like you !
rgds
Wilhelm
21 Sep 2006 00:10
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