5. How to check your Supplier before ordering
Post 22 of 101
Replying to [tonymac]:I myself have been scammed by a gold member, I am now feed up with companys stating that they are a gold member and then simply expect me to trust them. I think alibaba should have to answer to this and I am really considering going to the media about them,.
As i can see from reading through the forums alot of people have been scammed by so called verifid gold members who also have trustp *, YOU CAN TRUST THEM TO TAKE YOUR MONEY. Not to say all are cheats, But how can the legit companys be trusted when alibaba allows any one to be a goldmember and hold a trustpass?
I think alibaba should let us all use alipay and act as an escrow for frist time buyers and sellers, They would also make a fair few £££$$$ by doing this, by imposing a SMALL charge?
As i can see from reading through the forums alot of people have been scammed by so called verifid gold members who also have trustp *, YOU CAN TRUST THEM TO TAKE YOUR MONEY. Not to say all are cheats, But how can the legit companys be trusted when alibaba allows any one to be a goldmember and hold a trustpass?
I think alibaba should let us all use alipay and act as an escrow for frist time buyers and sellers, They would also make a fair few £££$$$ by doing this, by imposing a SMALL charge?
24 Jan 2007 04:22
Post 23 of 101
Replying to [othiem12603]:sorry for that!it isnot wise to sent money before they delivery the good. if i was you,i would find someone check the goods for me .
28 Jan 2007 03:06
Post 24 of 101
Replying to [Rizzob]:
I am trying to import from Shenzhen, Guangdong, China to Los Angeles, CA, USA. I have contacted four suppliers over there and they all have the following in common:
1) All four of them want me to pay by Western Union (payments are under $1000 each).
2) The payment made out to an individual's name instead of the company's name.
3) None would supply customer referrals instead some supplied tracking numbers from EMS to USA.
MY QUESTION:
Are these normal business practices when dealing with chinese suppliers?
Thank you. Your answers will be greatly appreciated.
I am trying to import from Shenzhen, Guangdong, China to Los Angeles, CA, USA. I have contacted four suppliers over there and they all have the following in common:
1) All four of them want me to pay by Western Union (payments are under $1000 each).
2) The payment made out to an individual's name instead of the company's name.
3) None would supply customer referrals instead some supplied tracking numbers from EMS to USA.
MY QUESTION:
Are these normal business practices when dealing with chinese suppliers?
Thank you. Your answers will be greatly appreciated.
07 Feb 2007 18:47
Post 25 of 101
Replying to [Prince]:
This is very true! We did business with a company in Shenzhen for many months. All business was by email. We did not go to China. The first shipments were excellent. However, a very large ($40,000USD) order received was of extremely bad quality. The company would not honor the defects and we lost all of our money, our reputation with our customers, and it nearly put us out of business. We did as much diligence on this company as we could before doing business with them. Of course we no longer do business with them. They are Welgard Electrics and Welgard Power. We have tried in vain to get reports about them from other Chinese contacts but we do not have a Chinese name for this company so it is impossible. No one else in our industry has ever heard of this company. Yes, I found them on alibaba or one of the other trade boards.
Before working with any other Chinese companies, we went to China and physically visited the factories. We also established written contracts with the companies. We did very small orders initially to check the consistency of the quality. I believe it is very important to establish a face-to-face relationship with the owner of the company.
The most difficult thing for the importer is to find out who the actual manufacturer of a product is. There are surprisingly few actual manufacturers. I suspect that at least 90% of all of the trade leads on the boards such as Alibaba are from traders. They all SAY they are the manufacturer. Do not believe them. Even when in China, they will take you to "their" factory. This can also be a scam. Most factories will provide a guided tour and meeting room for their customers who are the "traders" or middle men. The factory will say they are their employees.
All I can say is be very very very careful. The Chinese have not learned nor do they practice the business ethics that we in the West count on. They seem to want to 'get the first order' and then are bothered by ongoing relationships. They want to make a quick score and get out and move on to their next victim. Sad but true!
This is very true! We did business with a company in Shenzhen for many months. All business was by email. We did not go to China. The first shipments were excellent. However, a very large ($40,000USD) order received was of extremely bad quality. The company would not honor the defects and we lost all of our money, our reputation with our customers, and it nearly put us out of business. We did as much diligence on this company as we could before doing business with them. Of course we no longer do business with them. They are Welgard Electrics and Welgard Power. We have tried in vain to get reports about them from other Chinese contacts but we do not have a Chinese name for this company so it is impossible. No one else in our industry has ever heard of this company. Yes, I found them on alibaba or one of the other trade boards.
Before working with any other Chinese companies, we went to China and physically visited the factories. We also established written contracts with the companies. We did very small orders initially to check the consistency of the quality. I believe it is very important to establish a face-to-face relationship with the owner of the company.
The most difficult thing for the importer is to find out who the actual manufacturer of a product is. There are surprisingly few actual manufacturers. I suspect that at least 90% of all of the trade leads on the boards such as Alibaba are from traders. They all SAY they are the manufacturer. Do not believe them. Even when in China, they will take you to "their" factory. This can also be a scam. Most factories will provide a guided tour and meeting room for their customers who are the "traders" or middle men. The factory will say they are their employees.
All I can say is be very very very careful. The Chinese have not learned nor do they practice the business ethics that we in the West count on. They seem to want to 'get the first order' and then are bothered by ongoing relationships. They want to make a quick score and get out and move on to their next victim. Sad but true!
15 Feb 2007 06:57
Post 26 of 101
That a good idea
![[em3]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_grin.gif){kind=icon}
Give alibaba more responsibility - it will make them different from other sites!!
01 Mar 2007 08:01
Post 27 of 101
i have been using www.businessinchina.cc Justin Yuan and his company Bussinessinchina they are very good and have been helping me out in china. For verification and site visits you should use them, I will use the in the future. There the best!!![[em1]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_smile.gif)
03 Mar 2007 06:22
Post 28 of 101
Replying to [Rizzob]:I have had alot of trouble with the Indonesian Suppliers. I sell expensive watches. They email me price lists, I order and pay using Paypal, and they never collect the money. It is apparent that they somehow get the price lists, run them through the computer, and hope they catch someone stupid enough to wire them money. They dissappear when I tell them Paypal or nothing.Peri/Peridave Imports
05 Mar 2007 08:04
Post 29 of 101
Replying to [CupOfTea]:Sign up for a Paypal account. It is accepted im 106 countries! You can avoid alot of agravation this way.
05 Mar 2007 08:06
Post 30 of 101
Replying to [nu_importer]:Deal only with Paypal. You have no protection any other way.They get their money and you have the security of knowing that PP and your credit card company are behind you.
05 Mar 2007 08:09