Can you check this company?
Post 1 of 13
Name: Mr David Gonnman Leave me a message
Company: R And R Mobile
Address: St Mary Axe #115
Country: United Kingdom
Phone: 44-247-485773
Fax: 44-247-485889
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10662759.html
and
Name: Mr Sileb Klarton Leave me a message
Company: Laberhause
Address: Muenchener Str 7
Country: Germany
Phone: 49-208-4423425
Fax: 49-208-4423425
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10705559.html
and Look how the deal must go on.
First I send you the phones, I contact alibaba, and give them the shiping detailes, after that they will contact you and tell you to send the money in a safe BankAccount.. after you will do this they will give you the shipping detailes, and after you will recive the phones they will send the money to
Is This imposible?
Company: R And R Mobile
Address: St Mary Axe #115
Country: United Kingdom
Phone: 44-247-485773
Fax: 44-247-485889
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10662759.html
and
Name: Mr Sileb Klarton Leave me a message
Company: Laberhause
Address: Muenchener Str 7
Country: Germany
Phone: 49-208-4423425
Fax: 49-208-4423425
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10705559.html
and Look how the deal must go on.
First I send you the phones, I contact alibaba, and give them the shiping detailes, after that they will contact you and tell you to send the money in a safe BankAccount.. after you will do this they will give you the shipping detailes, and after you will recive the phones they will send the money to
Is This imposible?
30 Aug 2006 06:37
Post 2 of 13
Replying to [Bartlomiej]:
First Company Laberhause :
Tel + Fax not from Frankfurt, coming from Mühlheim/NRW but not registred to a name there !
Adress in Frankfurt has following registred :
Alticast GmbH
Münchener Str. 7
60329 Frankfurt am Main
Mobil (01 72) 1 36 73 56
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Deniz Bank (Wien) AG Bank
Münchener Str. 7
60329 Frankfurt am Main
Tel. (0 18 05) 00 91 20
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Denizbank (Wien) AG Zweigniederlassung Frankfurt/Main Kreditinstitut
Münchener Str. 7
60329 Frankfurt am Main
Tel. (0 69) 4 27 26 03 - 0
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Kunhenn Gabriele Marion
Münchener Str. 7
60329 Frankfurt am Main
Mobil (01 76) 25 48 83 18
Sending from items with participation of Alibaba forget it, Alibaba will not provide something like Escort service !
Other Company follows after check !
rgds
Wilhelm
First Company Laberhause :
Tel + Fax not from Frankfurt, coming from Mühlheim/NRW but not registred to a name there !
Adress in Frankfurt has following registred :
Alticast GmbH
Münchener Str. 7
60329 Frankfurt am Main
Mobil (01 72) 1 36 73 56
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Deniz Bank (Wien) AG Bank
Münchener Str. 7
60329 Frankfurt am Main
Tel. (0 18 05) 00 91 20
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Denizbank (Wien) AG Zweigniederlassung Frankfurt/Main Kreditinstitut
Münchener Str. 7
60329 Frankfurt am Main
Tel. (0 69) 4 27 26 03 - 0
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Kunhenn Gabriele Marion
Münchener Str. 7
60329 Frankfurt am Main
Mobil (01 76) 25 48 83 18
Sending from items with participation of Alibaba forget it, Alibaba will not provide something like Escort service !
Other Company follows after check !
rgds
Wilhelm
30 Aug 2006 19:33
Post 3 of 13
Replying to [Bartlomiej]:
R AnD R Mobile
Tel & Fax number belongs to Coventry not London !
Postcode EC3A8AA belongs to St.Mary Axe No.25 - 65, not to number 115 !!
Prices, if you look the offers are impossible !
rgds
Wilhelm
R AnD R Mobile
Tel & Fax number belongs to Coventry not London !
Postcode EC3A8AA belongs to St.Mary Axe No.25 - 65, not to number 115 !!
Prices, if you look the offers are impossible !
rgds
Wilhelm
30 Aug 2006 19:42
Post 4 of 13
True, Alibaba does not provide this kind of escrow service. If you go along with it, they are probably going to impersonate Alibaba by sending some fake emails.
31 Aug 2006 09:08
Post 5 of 13
Replying to [FraudWatchersDotOrg]:![[em4]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_sad.gif)
Fraud
I saw most your activities in Fraud & Trusty forums like as the professional consultants of ALIBABA
You always make a warning to everybody in order to beware by the scammers especially for Nigerian, Malaysian, Indonesian, UK, Singapore and other countries
But, in case any body was screaming that they was have scammed by the China Peoples, you never make any action even for one response.
I think you are the prefect shield for the China people?s scandal as the motherland of ALIBABA.
In this regard, I would like ask to you, WHAT YOU CAN DO IF ALIBABA WAS HAVE SCAMMED AS ON OF THEIR MEMBER????????
I have the exact proof about that.
Fraud
I saw most your activities in Fraud & Trusty forums like as the professional consultants of ALIBABA
You always make a warning to everybody in order to beware by the scammers especially for Nigerian, Malaysian, Indonesian, UK, Singapore and other countries
But, in case any body was screaming that they was have scammed by the China Peoples, you never make any action even for one response.
I think you are the prefect shield for the China people?s scandal as the motherland of ALIBABA.
In this regard, I would like ask to you, WHAT YOU CAN DO IF ALIBABA WAS HAVE SCAMMED AS ON OF THEIR MEMBER????????
I have the exact proof about that.
03 Sep 2006 04:03
Post 6 of 13
Replying to [shariff]:
Good one. But not forget Malaysian do scam too but not all done by malaysian. Mostly those scammer using Malaysian Names to scam.
dhavie
Good one. But not forget Malaysian do scam too but not all done by malaysian. Mostly those scammer using Malaysian Names to scam.
dhavie
03 Sep 2006 06:05
Post 7 of 13
Replying to [wilhelm]: Has anyone dealt with BYTESTOPIA VENTURES SDN BHD or DropshipperNetwork? It says they are a Trustpass but I know that is no guarantee. They charge to veiw their price list.
03 Sep 2006 09:50
Post 8 of 13
Replying to [shariff]:
The reason I usually do not comment much on Chinese companies is simply because I am not very familiar with the types of scams from that country.
The reason I usually do not comment much on Chinese companies is simply because I am not very familiar with the types of scams from that country.
03 Sep 2006 15:55
Post 9 of 13
Replying to [classic209]:
Hallo Classic, for a new question please open a new posting next time, because I found it only through Coincidence !
This company you ask for, is not registred in the Singapore Companie House and the phone number is a mobile from Malaysia.
The Fax is landline also from Malaysia !
So I would be very careful to trust them !
rgds
Wilhelm
Hallo Classic, for a new question please open a new posting next time, because I found it only through Coincidence !
This company you ask for, is not registred in the Singapore Companie House and the phone number is a mobile from Malaysia.
The Fax is landline also from Malaysia !
So I would be very careful to trust them !
rgds
Wilhelm
03 Sep 2006 18:02
Post 10 of 13
Replying to [FraudWatchersDotOrg]:![[em1]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_smile.gif)
Woowww??.!!!! Very simple argumentations??.
Not familiar with the types of scams from China???????
Did you mean the scam actions of China peoples have has different by other countries???
More professionals instead and or you were afraid to make your comments for China scammers as the motherland of ALIBABA as your master?????
Other while, you don?t make any response for my questions, what is your action if Alibaba has been scammed as one as their member?????
Woowww??.!!!! Very simple argumentations??.
Not familiar with the types of scams from China???????
Did you mean the scam actions of China peoples have has different by other countries???
More professionals instead and or you were afraid to make your comments for China scammers as the motherland of ALIBABA as your master?????
Other while, you don?t make any response for my questions, what is your action if Alibaba has been scammed as one as their member?????
03 Sep 2006 18:12
Post 11 of 13
I am a guest moderator here, I do not work for Alibaba and have no affiliation with them except that I moderate this forum. My opinions are mine alone and not those of Alibaba.
Sorry I'm having some problems understanding your English, this makes very little sense to me: "what is your action if Alibaba has been scammed as one as their member". If you are asking what I can do if someone gets scammed, nothing really, except sometimes provide advice and information. Most of what I try to do is prevention. You would have to contact Alibaba if you want to know what they can do:
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/servlet/page/static/help/contact_us_answer or alibaba@alibaba-inc.com
It is often complicated for someone not in China to check up on a Chinese company, this is pretty much a fact. There are however plenty of companies and professionals here that provide these kinds of due diligence services for a fee, so it is not impossible. Certain scammers are easily recognised and with those I will state my opinion as my time allows. But with China, legitimate companies sometimes act in very strange ways by "western" standards, they often use Western Union to receive payments, they like to use free email addresses and some have poorly designed websites with very strange domain registrations. And this is among those that I know are legitimate, which is why I'm afraid to say much about any of them. There are plenty of companies outside of China where I can't provide much useful information either. It's of course true there are scammers in China just as in most other countries, you need to be as careful there as anywhere else, even more so if you are not experienced in dealing with China.
I hope this explanation was a bit more to your satisfaction? I assure you this is all there is to it, I am not part of any conspiracy here. But I like the tinfoil hat attitude![[em19]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_great.gif)
Sorry I'm having some problems understanding your English, this makes very little sense to me: "what is your action if Alibaba has been scammed as one as their member". If you are asking what I can do if someone gets scammed, nothing really, except sometimes provide advice and information. Most of what I try to do is prevention. You would have to contact Alibaba if you want to know what they can do:
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/servlet/page/static/help/contact_us_answer or alibaba@alibaba-inc.com
It is often complicated for someone not in China to check up on a Chinese company, this is pretty much a fact. There are however plenty of companies and professionals here that provide these kinds of due diligence services for a fee, so it is not impossible. Certain scammers are easily recognised and with those I will state my opinion as my time allows. But with China, legitimate companies sometimes act in very strange ways by "western" standards, they often use Western Union to receive payments, they like to use free email addresses and some have poorly designed websites with very strange domain registrations. And this is among those that I know are legitimate, which is why I'm afraid to say much about any of them. There are plenty of companies outside of China where I can't provide much useful information either. It's of course true there are scammers in China just as in most other countries, you need to be as careful there as anywhere else, even more so if you are not experienced in dealing with China.
I hope this explanation was a bit more to your satisfaction? I assure you this is all there is to it, I am not part of any conspiracy here. But I like the tinfoil hat attitude
03 Sep 2006 19:12