Replying to [wilhelm]: Hello, some nice suppliers here: www.sourcingreview.com (I know because my company orders from suppliers that I have personally reviewed on this site). I am not saying that those that have not been reviewed are also nice... or not nice...I just don't know, but I find sourcing review helpful. Cheers;)

Most companies on these B2B websites are scam artist. They have fake addresses and phone numbers. Check to see if their phone and fax number are the same, what's up with that. If they give you a cell phone number, think about this. Do you know of any companies with 50 to 100 employee's and the only way to contact them is through the CEO's cell phone. Why is the CEO of a company the contact person, think about it.
Google one of these big successfull companies names and phone numbers. You'll find that they only exist on the B2B websites, and their phone number is invalid or belongs to some little old lady.
If their contact information is false, report them to the B2B website owners and have them removed, before them scam someone else. I've had about 10 companies remove in the past 3 weeks.
Ask these B2B website owner to implement a rating system like Ebay. Stop the Scammers

Replying to [businesswithasia]:

Because your reply has nothing to do with my posting, please compare

sourcingreview
Alexa Trend/Rank:
#576,523 The lower the rank the better. Down 138,808 ranks over the last three months.

with

Alibaba
Alexa Trend/Rank:
#130 The lower the rank the better. Down 4 ranks over the last three months.

wilhelm

Replying to [wilhelm]:
Tu dis pour que les gens ne te piquent pas tes fournisseurs =), donc bon ...

Replying to [AchatsMalins]:

Mr. Michael TURPIN

you should write a comment in english, so that all members can understand the meaning !
Translation by Google or Altavista will not give the real text !

This posting has nothing to do with suppliers or buyers, it is only a information about the truth !

Wilhelm

Replying to [wilhelm]: I wished that I did good research before falling into the situation . I just lost $1500.00 to two company that supplied me fake cell phones . It is so sad that alibaba could not in anyway help with this issue or take these two company from their site. The two company areYonghui Trade Co., Ltd with one tina as their front and another company I am so unhappy with myself because I consider myself a careful person but I trusted alibaba and they messed me up big time .

Replying to [wilhelm]:

quoting from wilhelm: This posting has nothing to do with suppliers or buyers, it is only a information about the truth !

really???
do you realize that you have made half of China angry or disagree with you??
come on!!
you act like you know everything about China or world of business. like you always right.
what you see is what you believe. that aint right, not always. when you see a movie, do you know exactly what is behind the screen? or a magician tricks.
do you think everyone will read the whole posting to know the matters or what you want to explain as you wish for? no! they first see the title and first page.
and you may cause excessive reaction to every reader. negative thought.
China is a big country, real BIG. and you just underestimate them with your short literate knowledge.
you have mentioned that you have fully read all your post before submitted. naaah don't forget that you have wrote "ALL offered ...blablabla". you read it but you didn't think thousand times before posting it, what will cause, people might get wrong taken, and people reaction you don't think off including suppliers and buyers of course. how dare you!!. ALL means ALL,
no exception.
seems that you checked everyone's background who reply your post as your counter action of their reaction to your writing. and that is childish. using their absurd status to defend yourself. we are not talking about them, we are talking about your posts.
no wonder someone called you gr . i don't know what this mean actually

I do remember when i said that i admired you, your thought, your skills and your knowledge. i'll take it back

Replying to [BUMshells]:

Bummy, or better Dummy !

Better you sell your shells and keep an eye to the Indonesian big scam business !

If you not understand meanings of postings, you should not answer to them !

Wilhelm

Replying to [wilhelm]:

Wilhelm my friend, you have just saying my point.
your posting is not easily understandable. ambiguous and has so much different perceptions or even its truth.

those who disagree with you must be taken it wrongfully as different meaning than what you are about to say.
I think this is only a miscommunication, the matter of serving the information. perhaps some supporting points are missing. such proof or official fact which no one can deny. not an assumption but real fact. after all, this post is a huge issue.

as in this post context, your statement "Chinese Government is not able to install a effective control" is not a strong fact ("effective" in the context does not refer to 100%, less than that but not ZERO for sure, as previously i have said in other topic there is no certainty in this world but only possibilities. so there won't be any "ALL"). you should mention facts from the brand holders side i guess.

i know you are a smart person and have lots of experiences. i believe you can manage a better posting structure. and you have to set them at first page, because we cannot predict everyone will read the whole posting and replies to understand the whole information. you are responsible for what you do. also not everyone as smart and experienced as you.

do you understand what i am saying?i know you'll do.

i see you have so much spirit to fight against scammers. trying to inform everyone to be more careful. That's great, i am with you. but no need to rush and become so aggressive but forgetting the best information structure to make it easily understandable and legit.

keep up the good work. lets see if you can be a true hero.

PS: thank you for calling me Dummy Bummy, sounds cute

Replying to [wilhelm]:

Keep up the good work Wilhelm. Your advise is much appreciated.

I am from UK and I am new to buying and would have easily been caught out by the scammers if it weren't for people like you.

You tell it as it is...Good for you!!

Paul