NO INTERNATIONAL BRANDS TO BUY FROM CHINA !!!
Post 12 of 98
Replying to [wilhelm]:
I'm so sorry to read such un unthoughtful statement of yours online, my Friend.
Firstly, please tell me what the famous International Brands are in your eyes. Secondly, why did you make such an ununthoughtful statement here? What is your evidence or fact to support your opinions?
Please note that you can buy almost every International Brand worldwide in China but the price is not so cheap as you thought before. You did not know where you could buy the authentic International Brands in China at all, you can only meet them online and came across the scammers every time with cheap prices, so you made the conclusion: ' Oh, you can never buy branded products from China!' They are all replicas or refurbished ones.
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It's funny for you to say so. As far as I know, al most all the World-class brand have authorized factories, distributors and wholesalers in China as the market is so huge. Here are some examples:
Nokia series:
www.nokia.com.cn
Sony series:
www.sony.com.cn
Apple series:
www.apple.com.cn
Dell series:
www.dell.com.cn
Nike series:
www.nike.com.cn
You can find lot of authorized distributors on their official websites in China. How can you make a statement like this?
I'm so sorry to read such un unthoughtful statement of yours online, my Friend.
Firstly, please tell me what the famous International Brands are in your eyes. Secondly, why did you make such an ununthoughtful statement here? What is your evidence or fact to support your opinions?
Please note that you can buy almost every International Brand worldwide in China but the price is not so cheap as you thought before. You did not know where you could buy the authentic International Brands in China at all, you can only meet them online and came across the scammers every time with cheap prices, so you made the conclusion: ' Oh, you can never buy branded products from China!' They are all replicas or refurbished ones.
It's funny for you to say so. As far as I know, al most all the World-class brand have authorized factories, distributors and wholesalers in China as the market is so huge. Here are some examples: Nokia series:
www.nokia.com.cn
Sony series:
www.sony.com.cn
Apple series:
www.apple.com.cn
Dell series:
www.dell.com.cn
Nike series:
www.nike.com.cn
You can find lot of authorized distributors on their official websites in China. How can you make a statement like this?
17 Jul 2007 07:28
Post 13 of 98
Replying to [Business in China]:
the websites which you mentioned are indeed valid but can you buy directly from them for export out of China???? If they are allowed to sell directly to overseas then the whole distribution process will be in a mess.
I suggest you check with Nokia China for example if they export out of China.
the websites which you mentioned are indeed valid but can you buy directly from them for export out of China???? If they are allowed to sell directly to overseas then the whole distribution process will be in a mess.
I suggest you check with Nokia China for example if they export out of China.
17 Jul 2007 07:54
Post 14 of 98
Replying to [wilhelm]:I am sorry to hear that, my friend, first I should thank you that you can give us this advice, this problem exsist in china, but it is not mostly, I only have one word to you: don't judge one thing from a part.![[em1]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_smile.gif)
17 Jul 2007 16:45
Post 15 of 98
Replying to [Business in China]:
My dear Mr. Yulin Yuan,
I understand your reply, because I know it effects your business to source and make confirmations for your clients. If they know that every company who offers Brand Items is a scam, they do not need you !
Before I judge about a posting I have to read it in full, that is something what some people not do, mods included !
The following was part of my reply to "Bujung", who answered to my posting in a kind, like a concerned Gold Supplier !
"""Of course you can see on all Exhibitions Brand Items and of course you can buy Nokia Mobiles, Dell Computers and Louis Vuitton Bags in China, but only in official shops at normal Chinese prices and I think you know what level they have for this kind of merchandise !
Also do you have in this shops the worldwide guarantee, quality and after sales service, what you mentioned as upcoming in China, in your reply !"""
After this explanation of my posting, I assume that you have understand the meaning of my posting and will agree with me, when I repeat :
""YOU CAN NOT BUY NEW ORIGINAL BRAND ITEMS FROM CHINA !!""
and that is of course meant, to the place where it is posted, B2B sites !
Every wholesale of this merchandise is illegal, fake, refurbished or used !
best regards
Wilhelm
My dear Mr. Yulin Yuan,
I understand your reply, because I know it effects your business to source and make confirmations for your clients. If they know that every company who offers Brand Items is a scam, they do not need you !
Before I judge about a posting I have to read it in full, that is something what some people not do, mods included !
The following was part of my reply to "Bujung", who answered to my posting in a kind, like a concerned Gold Supplier !
"""Of course you can see on all Exhibitions Brand Items and of course you can buy Nokia Mobiles, Dell Computers and Louis Vuitton Bags in China, but only in official shops at normal Chinese prices and I think you know what level they have for this kind of merchandise !
Also do you have in this shops the worldwide guarantee, quality and after sales service, what you mentioned as upcoming in China, in your reply !"""
After this explanation of my posting, I assume that you have understand the meaning of my posting and will agree with me, when I repeat :
""YOU CAN NOT BUY NEW ORIGINAL BRAND ITEMS FROM CHINA !!""
and that is of course meant, to the place where it is posted, B2B sites !
Every wholesale of this merchandise is illegal, fake, refurbished or used !
best regards
Wilhelm
17 Jul 2007 18:07
Post 16 of 98
Replying to [wilhelm]: I partly agree with your statement, but not totally. There are some good products that are genuinely made in China. As with all countries and suppliers, you must be careful with whom you buy from.
18 Jul 2007 00:20
Post 17 of 98
Replying to [digitalnewmexico]:
Hallo Sam Steiger !
It is mentioned in this posting, that Chinese Brands are excluded, my facts belong to wholesale with "New International Brand Items"
And it is good from you, to inform us that everybody must be careful with whom one work !
As a 3 day new member, offering most asked Laptops and with freephone numbers, a not listed company with 51-100 people(las cruces business directory, yellow and white pages) on a not excisting street(las cruces map), you are a good example !!!
rgds
Wilhelm
Hallo Sam Steiger !
It is mentioned in this posting, that Chinese Brands are excluded, my facts belong to wholesale with "New International Brand Items"
And it is good from you, to inform us that everybody must be careful with whom one work !
As a 3 day new member, offering most asked Laptops and with freephone numbers, a not listed company with 51-100 people(las cruces business directory, yellow and white pages) on a not excisting street(las cruces map), you are a good example !!!
rgds
Wilhelm
18 Jul 2007 03:12
Post 18 of 98
Replying to [wilhelm]:
Do not get angry with my reply here. I'm just telling you the truth.
1. My reply has nothing to do with my sourcing or other services here in China. Our main service is to act as a buying office for many commodities or products like Fireworks, Ceramics, Auto parts and Green teas instead of verification service as you thought before. These products are the most competitive on the globe, say, Liuyang Fireworks accounts for more than 70% of the world market.
2. As a reliable business service company, we have also invested some other platforms like www.go4worldbusiness.com from India and www.powersourcing.com from the USA etc. I did not mean to promote our company service here as a Mod. Of course, I did not mean to hurt you by replying your post like this. Actually, I have helped countless foreign buyers free of charge as a Mod here. I can also answer your questions at any time in China.
3. The links that I mentioned here is to tell you that you can find some authorized distributors and wholesalers for Branded products from their official websites. This is actually to tell all the foreign buyers that they should contact their headquarters first and do not buy branded products from scammers in China. You can say' NO cheap branded products available in China', the branded products are a bit cheaper than those of other countries but not too cheap.
Again I did not mean to hurt you and just feel free to have a discussion with me on everything in China. I guess I know a bit better than you regarding this topic if you have never been to China before.
Do not get angry with my reply here. I'm just telling you the truth. 1. My reply has nothing to do with my sourcing or other services here in China. Our main service is to act as a buying office for many commodities or products like Fireworks, Ceramics, Auto parts and Green teas instead of verification service as you thought before. These products are the most competitive on the globe, say, Liuyang Fireworks accounts for more than 70% of the world market.
2. As a reliable business service company, we have also invested some other platforms like www.go4worldbusiness.com from India and www.powersourcing.com from the USA etc. I did not mean to promote our company service here as a Mod. Of course, I did not mean to hurt you by replying your post like this. Actually, I have helped countless foreign buyers free of charge as a Mod here. I can also answer your questions at any time in China.
3. The links that I mentioned here is to tell you that you can find some authorized distributors and wholesalers for Branded products from their official websites. This is actually to tell all the foreign buyers that they should contact their headquarters first and do not buy branded products from scammers in China. You can say' NO cheap branded products available in China', the branded products are a bit cheaper than those of other countries but not too cheap.
Again I did not mean to hurt you and just feel free to have a discussion with me on everything in China. I guess I know a bit better than you regarding this topic if you have never been to China before.
18 Jul 2007 03:21
Post 19 of 98
Replying to [wilhelm]:
I think maybe you should re-word your statement : to the effect that "you cannot buy branded international goods from chinese factory" , or "real international branded goods is more expensive i china" etc. Reading it literally, you statement is wrong.
PLUS several chinese brand is consider international brand . And some international brand is cheaper in china because they are made in china, so they are cheaper in China , e.g like a Sharp brand TV , they are cheaper in China.
I think maybe you should re-word your statement : to the effect that "you cannot buy branded international goods from chinese factory" , or "real international branded goods is more expensive i china" etc. Reading it literally, you statement is wrong.
PLUS several chinese brand is consider international brand . And some international brand is cheaper in china because they are made in china, so they are cheaper in China , e.g like a Sharp brand TV , they are cheaper in China.
18 Jul 2007 04:01
Post 20 of 98
Replying to [Business in China & Jason Lim CH ]:
Yustin,
as ever, no change in your reply, first a introduction of your company and then long words about something, that could be said in short !
As all people on this board can read, I have mentioned some international brands Nokia, Dell, LV , that are of course avaliable in China !
The sense and purpose of my posting is, to inform all the unexpirienced people, that all kind of Original International Brand Items offered at dream prices from Chinese Manufacturers and Traders, are counterfeits, refurbished or used ! Nothing more and nothing less.
Everybody who talks, but if.... and when, is a indirect helper of the scammers !
Jason Lim CH
This is not a literally forum, this is a business forum !
I have to write it in clear text to make it understandable, bring it to the point and not talk round about the point as many people do !
Of course could it be that an International Brand, 'Made in and "for" China', is cheaper there, but try to sell a chinese Sharp TV with chinese remote and user manual in the rest of the world, quickly you will get bancrupt !
"""PLUS several chinese brand is consider international brand"""
Can you please name some !
rgds
Wilhelm
Yustin,
as ever, no change in your reply, first a introduction of your company and then long words about something, that could be said in short !
As all people on this board can read, I have mentioned some international brands Nokia, Dell, LV , that are of course avaliable in China !
The sense and purpose of my posting is, to inform all the unexpirienced people, that all kind of Original International Brand Items offered at dream prices from Chinese Manufacturers and Traders, are counterfeits, refurbished or used ! Nothing more and nothing less.
Everybody who talks, but if.... and when, is a indirect helper of the scammers !
Jason Lim CH
This is not a literally forum, this is a business forum !
I have to write it in clear text to make it understandable, bring it to the point and not talk round about the point as many people do !
Of course could it be that an International Brand, 'Made in and "for" China', is cheaper there, but try to sell a chinese Sharp TV with chinese remote and user manual in the rest of the world, quickly you will get bancrupt !
"""PLUS several chinese brand is consider international brand"""
Can you please name some !
rgds
Wilhelm
18 Jul 2007 18:29
Post 21 of 98
Replying to [wilhelm]: Thank you verry much for your massage.
18 Jul 2007 22:57