NO INTERNATIONAL BRANDS TO BUY FROM CHINA !!!
Post 1 of 98
Please take all to your knowledge !!!
It is "no" Original International Brand Merchandise avaliable in CHINA !
All offered Mobile Phones, Electronics, Computer, Memory / Flash / SD Cards, Fashion, Handbags, Shoes, Food, Drugs and a long list of other wanted items from China are :
"COUNTERFEITS" or,
"REFURBISHED" or,
"USED" or,
will simply "NOT BE DELIVERED" after payment !
Chinese offer this items, because Chinese Government does not install a effective control and the "Exporters" mostly use dubious agents to
prevent the customs control for outgoing merchandise from China !
But we see a sign at the Horizon, last week a court in Bejing, imposed the death penalty against the director of the Chinese Drug Control, because of corruption ! A good step to the future !
SO PLEASE DO NOT BUY THIS KIND OF MERCHANDISE IN CHINA, YOU ONLY CAN LOSE YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY, and more, if your customs clearing discovers counterfeits, it is a criminal act and ignorance does not protect against punishment !!!
rgds
Wilhelm
It is "no" Original International Brand Merchandise avaliable in CHINA !
All offered Mobile Phones, Electronics, Computer, Memory / Flash / SD Cards, Fashion, Handbags, Shoes, Food, Drugs and a long list of other wanted items from China are :
"COUNTERFEITS" or,
"REFURBISHED" or,
"USED" or,
will simply "NOT BE DELIVERED" after payment !
Chinese offer this items, because Chinese Government does not install a effective control and the "Exporters" mostly use dubious agents to
prevent the customs control for outgoing merchandise from China !
But we see a sign at the Horizon, last week a court in Bejing, imposed the death penalty against the director of the Chinese Drug Control, because of corruption ! A good step to the future !
SO PLEASE DO NOT BUY THIS KIND OF MERCHANDISE IN CHINA, YOU ONLY CAN LOSE YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY, and more, if your customs clearing discovers counterfeits, it is a criminal act and ignorance does not protect against punishment !!!
rgds
Wilhelm
14 Jul 2007 19:01
Post 2 of 98
Replying to [wilhelm]:
I totally agree that there is no international brand in China, this is a business forum and it is under fraud and security section. Those people who visit this website are buyers and sellers. Mostly sellers who read this forum want to learn from others experience. For those wanting to buy cheaper international brand ( except Chinese Brand ) in China, I say it is very slim chance of getting so and the chances of getting scam is very high. So why take your risk? Why dont you find a good supplier to do your own brand in China instead? That is what the original brand owner is doing. I am sure there are many good manufacturer in China, example, I say those Chinese Brand like LiNing is better than Nike or Reebok, those who has bought LiNing before definitely wont deny this statement. Another example is that all hotels in China are using Chinese brand in their electrical appliances such as TV, hair drier, kettle and etc. If the quality is lousy do you think the Chinese Hotel operator want to use it? It must be more cost effective than those international brands. Wouldnt this statement make sense?
So why take a big risk to earn a little more profit by sourcing international brand in China and not take a bigger step to make your own brand in China instead and make some huge profits. What you got to do is to find a real good manufacturer and station your QC there or engage a 3rd party QC to do so. But be careful whom do you select as you and I know that China is so huge and if there are 10% of bad suppliers the numbers are extremely huge considering they have the largest population. Of course you also need a huge volume to do so but if you do not have huge volume what is the point of souring in China? Try other country in Asia instead. There are lots of those manufacturers in Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia, Vietnam and Malaysia. For your info labor cost in Vietnam and Indonesia are cheaper than China. It is about the same in Thailand and Malaysia is about 20-30% higher than China. Raw material like steel based are 30% cheaper in China. Labor skill in Singapore and Malaysia are much better than China and scam risks in these countries are very much lower. Do a study before you really go into business in Asia, what is the most important is getting a low risk and good supplier and who is able to work with you in long term and you got to balance up your cost.
I totally agree that there is no international brand in China, this is a business forum and it is under fraud and security section. Those people who visit this website are buyers and sellers. Mostly sellers who read this forum want to learn from others experience. For those wanting to buy cheaper international brand ( except Chinese Brand ) in China, I say it is very slim chance of getting so and the chances of getting scam is very high. So why take your risk? Why dont you find a good supplier to do your own brand in China instead? That is what the original brand owner is doing. I am sure there are many good manufacturer in China, example, I say those Chinese Brand like LiNing is better than Nike or Reebok, those who has bought LiNing before definitely wont deny this statement. Another example is that all hotels in China are using Chinese brand in their electrical appliances such as TV, hair drier, kettle and etc. If the quality is lousy do you think the Chinese Hotel operator want to use it? It must be more cost effective than those international brands. Wouldnt this statement make sense?
So why take a big risk to earn a little more profit by sourcing international brand in China and not take a bigger step to make your own brand in China instead and make some huge profits. What you got to do is to find a real good manufacturer and station your QC there or engage a 3rd party QC to do so. But be careful whom do you select as you and I know that China is so huge and if there are 10% of bad suppliers the numbers are extremely huge considering they have the largest population. Of course you also need a huge volume to do so but if you do not have huge volume what is the point of souring in China? Try other country in Asia instead. There are lots of those manufacturers in Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia, Vietnam and Malaysia. For your info labor cost in Vietnam and Indonesia are cheaper than China. It is about the same in Thailand and Malaysia is about 20-30% higher than China. Raw material like steel based are 30% cheaper in China. Labor skill in Singapore and Malaysia are much better than China and scam risks in these countries are very much lower. Do a study before you really go into business in Asia, what is the most important is getting a low risk and good supplier and who is able to work with you in long term and you got to balance up your cost.
19 Jul 2007 02:50
Post 3 of 98
i don't think so.
there are many authentic brands in china
there are many authentic brands in china
19 Jul 2007 05:01
Post 4 of 98
Replying to [David Frencken]: YES I WAS SCAM BY THIS COMPANY.
FUZHOU HAILIAN TRADE INDUSTRY CO. LTD
THEY ARE SELLING FAKE TOM TOM GO 910 ON THEIR WEB
SITE
FUZHOU HAILIAN TRADE INDUSTRY CO. LTD
THEY ARE SELLING FAKE TOM TOM GO 910 ON THEIR WEB
SITE
19 Jul 2007 05:50
Post 5 of 98
Replying to [sophia zhang]:
If you had read the complete posting you know, that this is mentioned in some replies !
But nobody is able to sell authentic brands under price,
and if they are made in china, no manufacturer has the rights to sell them !
rgds
Wilhelm
If you had read the complete posting you know, that this is mentioned in some replies !
But nobody is able to sell authentic brands under price,
and if they are made in china, no manufacturer has the rights to sell them !
rgds
Wilhelm
19 Jul 2007 21:04
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Post 7 of 98
Replying to [Usman0]:
Thank's for your feedback, I am happy about everyone who takes this to his/her knowledge and keeps away from this fraudulent sellers/manufacturers !
RGDS
WILHELM
Thank's for your feedback, I am happy about everyone who takes this to his/her knowledge and keeps away from this fraudulent sellers/manufacturers !
RGDS
WILHELM
20 Jul 2007 20:47
Post 8 of 98
Replying to [wilhelm]:
As long as new members complain about counterfeits from China, this Topic belongs to the TOP !!
Wilhelm
As long as new members complain about counterfeits from China, this Topic belongs to the TOP !!
Wilhelm
25 Jul 2007 17:34
Post 9 of 98
Replying to [digitalnewmexico]: please tell us where are those safe China manufacturer? thank you
27 Jul 2007 09:42
Post 10 of 98
WRONG! GR .. THERE ARE MANY MANY HONEST AND HONORABLE PEOPLE IN CHINA THAT DO EXCELLENT BUSINESS.. WHAT I SEE IS THE "GREED" IN YOUR BRAIN IS A BAD BLACK SPOT ON YOUR OPINIONS. SO REMOVE YOUR "GREED" AND OPEN YOUR HEART TO A WONDERFUL AND HAPPY PEOPLE,
29 Jul 2007 08:01
Post 11 of 98
Replying to [wilhelm]: True. I have managed to find a few manufacturers who do not put stolen names on their merchandise. Their goods are no better or worse than the counterfitters, probably, but I do not have to deal with the "fake" question when I sell them. I can say it is not a ........, it might look like one, but is made by........ and doesn't have any fake logo on it.
tx, paul
tx, paul
29 Jul 2007 23:31