PS3 scammer-Beware of this company and this person
Post 1 of 8
Before I get flamed...I am new to trading.![[em1]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_smile.gif)
I have been researching possible companies to provide Xbox 360 and PS3 consoles. One responded to my buy lead and I did little research about the company. Nevertheless, I believe that I have been scammed (that's what I get for not doing my due diligence). I wanted to make sure that this supplier would be able to deliver the products before making a large quantity order. I asked initially for a MOQ and he told me that there was not a MOQ. Since there wasn't a MOQ, I decided to purchase 2 units. The agreement was for 1 PS3 ($200) and 1 Xbox 360 ($180) with a 50% deposit on the product and the balance paid upon delivery of the product vua FedEx. After making a WU payment of $200, the supplier raised the MOQ. While it is not a lot of money $200, I still am bothered by it. I have been trying to get them to honor their end of the agreement but they are not doing anything but insisting that I increase my order. They want me to agree to purchase 20 units at the price of 10 units and make another WU payment of $1650. I have told them that I don't mind purchasing 20 units but I will not do so through WU. I have offered to pay via credit card, T/T, escrow, and other other method available. They have denied them all while stating that WU is the safest method (for them yeah). I have threatened to reveal their names on this board if my money is not refunded. (I don't know if I am allowed to do this, but moderator if I am out of line please let me know. If not, then delete these two sentences to confirm that I am not.)
Do I have any other recourse options?![[em5]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_angry.gif)
What can be done about the transaction?
I have been researching possible companies to provide Xbox 360 and PS3 consoles. One responded to my buy lead and I did little research about the company. Nevertheless, I believe that I have been scammed (that's what I get for not doing my due diligence). I wanted to make sure that this supplier would be able to deliver the products before making a large quantity order. I asked initially for a MOQ and he told me that there was not a MOQ. Since there wasn't a MOQ, I decided to purchase 2 units. The agreement was for 1 PS3 ($200) and 1 Xbox 360 ($180) with a 50% deposit on the product and the balance paid upon delivery of the product vua FedEx. After making a WU payment of $200, the supplier raised the MOQ. While it is not a lot of money $200, I still am bothered by it. I have been trying to get them to honor their end of the agreement but they are not doing anything but insisting that I increase my order. They want me to agree to purchase 20 units at the price of 10 units and make another WU payment of $1650. I have told them that I don't mind purchasing 20 units but I will not do so through WU. I have offered to pay via credit card, T/T, escrow, and other other method available. They have denied them all while stating that WU is the safest method (for them yeah). I have threatened to reveal their names on this board if my money is not refunded. (I don't know if I am allowed to do this, but moderator if I am out of line please let me know. If not, then delete these two sentences to confirm that I am not.)
Do I have any other recourse options?
What can be done about the transaction?
29 Jul 2006 21:20
Post 2 of 8
Replying to [doooooh]:
Yep, sorry you have been scammed. Raising the MOQ is one tactic they use to make you pay out more cash. You shouldn't name them here as long as they are an Alibaba company, and it will most likely not be their real names anyway. Usually, these scammers are skilled at remaining anonymous, that is the main reason they want to use WU, and catching them is difficult. Getting any money back is even harder. At least you did not lose too much.
You can report it to the Internet Crime Complaint Center at www.ic3.gov for statistical purposes, and you can send all the details to alibaba@alibaba-inc.com to have their listing removed.
Yep, sorry you have been scammed. Raising the MOQ is one tactic they use to make you pay out more cash. You shouldn't name them here as long as they are an Alibaba company, and it will most likely not be their real names anyway. Usually, these scammers are skilled at remaining anonymous, that is the main reason they want to use WU, and catching them is difficult. Getting any money back is even harder. At least you did not lose too much.
You can report it to the Internet Crime Complaint Center at www.ic3.gov for statistical purposes, and you can send all the details to alibaba@alibaba-inc.com to have their listing removed.
29 Jul 2006 23:58
Post 3 of 8
Replying to [doooooh]:
Hallo,
no doubt about it you are frauded and your money is shurely away !
You can name this fraudster without a problem, because when somebody sells you an item that is not on the market(PS3) the fraud
is perfect and not need a confirmation.
On the other hand I must say if you mean you are clever, why not check the market ? You see a PS3 ? You know the price ?
You only see your profit you thought to make and forget all regulations to do a safe business.
That is named learning by doing !!!
rds
Wilhelm
Hallo,
no doubt about it you are frauded and your money is shurely away !
You can name this fraudster without a problem, because when somebody sells you an item that is not on the market(PS3) the fraud
is perfect and not need a confirmation.
On the other hand I must say if you mean you are clever, why not check the market ? You see a PS3 ? You know the price ?
You only see your profit you thought to make and forget all regulations to do a safe business.
That is named learning by doing !!!
rds
Wilhelm
30 Jul 2006 02:17
Post 4 of 8
Replying to [doooooh]:
I'm sorry but if you believed that you were going to get a ps3 for $180 and a 360 for $200 with no MOQ, then you really shouldn't be in this business. Not trying to be rude.
I'm sorry but if you believed that you were going to get a ps3 for $180 and a 360 for $200 with no MOQ, then you really shouldn't be in this business. Not trying to be rude.
15 Oct 2006 16:46
Post 5 of 8
Replying to [Xskn Distributor]:
I have to agree with Xskn. If you are buying a product you should have an idea of the value. Its not expected that you will know what everything costs wholesale, but like the expression says, "if it sounds too good, it probably is". For electronics markup is minimal at best for most products. If something costs $399, then you can expect on a decent size purchase that maybe $50 off is a good deal per unit. I can't stress enough that RESEARCH, RESEARCH , and more RESEARCH is the key to NOT getting suckered in by people trying to offer you products at 1/2 or 2/3 off the retail price.
I have to agree with Xskn. If you are buying a product you should have an idea of the value. Its not expected that you will know what everything costs wholesale, but like the expression says, "if it sounds too good, it probably is". For electronics markup is minimal at best for most products. If something costs $399, then you can expect on a decent size purchase that maybe $50 off is a good deal per unit. I can't stress enough that RESEARCH, RESEARCH , and more RESEARCH is the key to NOT getting suckered in by people trying to offer you products at 1/2 or 2/3 off the retail price.
15 Oct 2006 18:13
Post 6 of 8
True, but in his defense he did say he was new to trading. Also, the original post was made July 29. Please avoid answering months-old posts
15 Oct 2006 20:51
Post 7 of 8
Replying to [doooooh]
You'd better verify your partner for the first order in China, it's true that there are too many scammers in the field of consumer electronics.
I've checked out nearly 20 business cammers, some of them even are Gold members this year.
Be careful!
You'd better verify your partner for the first order in China, it's true that there are too many scammers in the field of consumer electronics.
I've checked out nearly 20 business cammers, some of them even are Gold members this year.
Be careful!
16 Oct 2006 01:08
Post 8 of 8
Replying to [Business in China]:
If you answer to a question, please read also all answers for this posting before you make your comment !!!
And please it is against the rules to provide contact details, that also means e-mail adress in the footnote, if you need customers and this seems so, when I read your postings, you should set up a trade lead ! Otherwise your answers can be deleted with point deduction !
rgds
Wilhelm
If you answer to a question, please read also all answers for this posting before you make your comment !!!
And please it is against the rules to provide contact details, that also means e-mail adress in the footnote, if you need customers and this seems so, when I read your postings, you should set up a trade lead ! Otherwise your answers can be deleted with point deduction !
rgds
Wilhelm
16 Oct 2006 01:30
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