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Wbiecuk Crook or not?
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[em10]have any one hear of this company Wbiecuk? Got an E-mail from him, want me to be his rep. in our area. Can find his web site, and no product listing in his profile.
22 Jul 2006 10:12
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Hi,

Can't find anything on that company. But if he asked you to transfer payments for him, in return for some percentage of the funds, then that is a type of scam. You can read some more about it here:

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/10879/Being_approach_to_be_their_agent.htm

22 Jul 2006 11:07
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Replying to [FraudWatchersDotOrg]:Thank you. I figure He must be a scammer. He is still active in Alibaba. Got his E-mail thru my buying post lead. SSS (silly stupid scammer) who would fall for this obvious scam, and if any one fall for it because og greed then they can loose all there money for all I care.[em8][em8][em8]
23 Jul 2006 05:47
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Please report any such proposals to alibaba@alibaba-inc.com together with all the relevant information, so he can be removed.
23 Jul 2006 05:56
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Replying to [partsman]:

You will find him only with Wbiec in Alibaba !

As all scammers 44 70 and 87 telephone, Zip code belongs to Seventh Avenue in London and not 51-52 Oxborn Road, Manor Park

Scammer shure !!

rgds
Wilhelm
23 Jul 2006 06:36
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I think they are here is what they sent me , and also got my name in alibaba.com/ I told him if not verified seller or buyer i cannot do anything to help you out. I figure I spent 400 bucks to become a verified buyer or seller. And they do really do a back ground check..

here is what i got for a letter that dont make any sense at all..specially n umber 10 when it said that i suppose to give them an fee for shipping..

if you helping a customer out on transaction why would you be responsible for the shipping fee?








xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx





WBIEC GROUP
51 OXBORN ROAD, MANOR PARK ER4 12J.EAST LONDON.
UNITED KINGDOM.

TEL:447031949280
FAX:447092864040


OUR REF: WBIEG/87953/562/06 DATE: 20/7/2006.

AGREEMENT

THIS AGREEMENT IS MADE THIS ?.. DAY OF?Jully??.2006?? BETWEEN WBIEC GROUP & STATES AS FOLLOWS:-

1. IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE.

2. PAYMENTS ARE TO BE MADE ON OUR BEHALF FROM OUR NUMERIOUS CUSTOMERS.

3. THAT ON THIS AGREEMENT IS ENTITLED TO 10% OF PAYMENT MADE BY CUSTOMER ..

4. THE ENTILED 10% IS FOR PAYMENT FOR SERVICE RENDERED THIS COMPANY.

5. THAT IS HELD HARMLESS BOTH CORPORATELY AND PERSONALLY DURING THE COURSE OF THIS TRANSACTION.

6. THAT THIS IS PURELY A COLLECTIONS FROM NEW AND EXISTING ACCOUNTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXPEDITING SHIPPING BY EXCELERATING THE PAYMENT CLEARING PROCESS.

7. THIS AGREEMENT IS FOR A TERM OF 6 MONTHS WITH AN OPTION TO CONTINUE BUSINESS AFTER THE 6 MONTH TERM.

8. ALL FEES FOR SENDING THE 90% OF THE PAYMENT TO WBIEC GROUP VIA BANK TRANSFER, WESTERN UNION OR ANY OTHER FORM OF MONEY
9. TRANFER FEES SHALL BE DEDUCTED FROM THE 90% PAYMENT

10. THE AGENT IF DESIRED MAY REQUEST FOR SHIPMENT OF THE COMPANY?S PRODUCTS FOR REGIONAL PROMOTION ,HOWEVER THE AGENT SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DELIVERY CHARGES.

11.
THIS AGREEMENT IS BINDING ON BOTH PARTIES
SIGNED AND SEALED BY PARTIES.
SIGNED:______________________ SIGNED_____________________
BARR.CARLOS (FOR WBIEC GROUP) (REPRESENTATIVE)



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23 Jul 2006 10:46
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heres another one for wbiecuk

GOOD DAY SIR.

WE RECEIVED YOUR INFORMATION FROM MR.RICHARDS/OWENS OF WBEIC
COMPANY OVERSEAS THAT YOU GOING TO BE ONE OF THEIR
REPRESENTIVE.
OUR COMPANY BOUGHT SOME MATERIALS FROM MR.RICHARDS/OWENS
WE OWN THE AMOUNT OF $125,995.00US.
PLEASE INFORM US IF THE PAYMENT WILL BE ISSUED UNDER YOUR
PERSONAL NAME OR COMPANY.ALSO CONFIRM YOUR MAILING
INFORMATION

WE LOOK FORWARD HEARING FROM YOU.

REGARDS VANESSA DOUGLAS
FOR MR. PETER BROWN


23 Jul 2006 10:51
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i had told them they were scammer,

Wether you are mad at client or not I shouldnt think they take it that serious.. They should say we regrett not doing business with you. but this is what they say back to me for WBIE

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

HELO ZARINA

I DEMAND A VERY PERFECT EXPLANATION FROM YOU REGARDING THE EMAIL YOU SENT TO ME THIS AFTERNOON.I AM THE BARRISTER OF THE WBIEC GROUP AND I MADE OUT THE CONTRACT LETTER BASED ON THE INFORMATION SUPMITED TO ME BY THE SECETARY THEREFORE IF THERE IS A MISTAKES IN REGARDS TO YOUR NAMES YOU SHOULD HAVE THE SECETARY BLAMED AND NOT ME.

I DEEM IT FIT TO INFORM YOU THAT YOU HAVE NO MORAL JUSTIFICATIONS TO ADDRESSED ME THE WAY YOU DID IN YOUR MESSAGE,I HAVE A WIFE AND SHE HAS NOT BY ANY WAY DISRESPECTED ME BUT YOU JUST DID,JUST BECAUSE YOU WHERE OFFERD A CONTRACT FROM THE COMPANY,A CONTRACT THAT WILL BE FETCHING YOU A TEN PERCENT COMMISSION ATLEAST EVERY MONTHS AND MIGHT END UP IN MAKING YOU THE REGIONAL MANAGER IN THE AMERICAN BRANCH.

I DEMAND AN URGENT APOLOGY FROM YOU IMMEDIETLY,AND IF WISH TO DISREGARD THE CONTRACT OFFERD TO YOU BY THE WBIEC GROUP, DO SEND ME YOUR LETTER OF TERMINATION IMMEDIETLY FOR COUNCILATION AND I DONT THINK I CAN BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOUR TYPE.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT APPLIED FOR THE CONTRACT BUT YOU WHERE SELECTED BECAUSE YOU ARE A WOMAN AS WOMEN ARE BEIGN CONSIDERD HONESTY AND TRUTHFUL THAN MEN IN SOME CASES.

I AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE IMMEDIETLY.

BARR.CARLOS

23 Jul 2006 15:15
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They can get quite nasty sometimes, usually it is only words and doesn't mean anything, they're just trying to make you think they might be legit after all.


But keep in mind these people are criminals, often with international connections, however stupid they may seem sometimes. I would recommend once anyone realises they are in contact with a scammer, to simply ignore them, after all they do have your personal information.
23 Jul 2006 17:15
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I got the same msg too. Maybe it's a hoax.
16 Nov 2006 16:31
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Replying to [olinee]:

Send it back, without a comment using the reply function !
If they send 500 mails a day and get 500 back without a comment, they will stop after short time !

rgds
Wilhelm
16 Nov 2006 16:50
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