How many people have been swindled by Chinese suppliers? what's the percentage?
Post 1 of 244
I want to do a poll, but there is no voting system here. ![[em9]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_dizzy.gif)
So, I have to ask and hope you guys can reply.
Most Chinese suppliers are honest, or did you get swindled by them?![[em11]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_sweat.gif)
Tell us your experience. Sharing is good, right?
![[em17]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_shake_hands.gif)
So, I have to ask and hope you guys can reply.Most Chinese suppliers are honest, or did you get swindled by them?
Tell us your experience. Sharing is good, right?
19 Jul 2006 21:20
Post 2 of 244
Replying to [andy111]:
Sorry to hear your case.
You should report this scammer to alibaba service team.
To get your money back, please report your case to China embassy in your country, or contact Putian local Industrial & Commercial Bureau at 0594-2692463 Email: pt315@tom.com. Their website is http://www.pt.fjaic.gov.cn/ (if you can read Chinese).
Hope it helps.
Sorry to hear your case.
You should report this scammer to alibaba service team.
To get your money back, please report your case to China embassy in your country, or contact Putian local Industrial & Commercial Bureau at 0594-2692463 Email: pt315@tom.com. Their website is http://www.pt.fjaic.gov.cn/ (if you can read Chinese).
Hope it helps.
30 Mar 2008 02:41
Post 3 of 244
Replying to [desoftvzla]:
Sorry to learn your case.
Firstly, please report this scammer to the alibaba service team.
If you have done a little bit research on the internet about Putian, you will find Putian is notorious for scammers. You should be very careful for buying any products from there.
It is a learning curve for newbies buying overseas. Always need to do your own due diligence works before sending payment to someone you knows nothing.
To get your money back, please report your case to China embassy in your country, or contact Putian local Industrial & Commercial Bureau at 0594-2692463 Email: pt315@tom.com. Their website is http://www.pt.fjaic.gov.cn/ (if you can read Chinese).
Sorry to learn your case.
Firstly, please report this scammer to the alibaba service team.
If you have done a little bit research on the internet about Putian, you will find Putian is notorious for scammers. You should be very careful for buying any products from there.
It is a learning curve for newbies buying overseas. Always need to do your own due diligence works before sending payment to someone you knows nothing.
To get your money back, please report your case to China embassy in your country, or contact Putian local Industrial & Commercial Bureau at 0594-2692463 Email: pt315@tom.com. Their website is http://www.pt.fjaic.gov.cn/ (if you can read Chinese).
30 Mar 2008 02:43
Post 4 of 244
Replying to [Yin Media]:
You need to report the scammer to the alibaba service team.
If you have done a little bit research on the internet about Putian, you will find Putian is notorious for scammers. You should be very careful for buying any products from there.
It is a learning curve for newbies buying overseas. Always need to do your own due diligence works before sending payment to someone you knows nothing.
To get your money back, please report your case to China embassy in your country, or contact Putian local Industrial & Commercial Bureau at 0594-2692463 Email: pt315@tom.com. Their website is http://www.pt.fjaic.gov.cn/ (if you can read Chinese).
You need to report the scammer to the alibaba service team.
If you have done a little bit research on the internet about Putian, you will find Putian is notorious for scammers. You should be very careful for buying any products from there.
It is a learning curve for newbies buying overseas. Always need to do your own due diligence works before sending payment to someone you knows nothing.
To get your money back, please report your case to China embassy in your country, or contact Putian local Industrial & Commercial Bureau at 0594-2692463 Email: pt315@tom.com. Their website is http://www.pt.fjaic.gov.cn/ (if you can read Chinese).
30 Mar 2008 02:45
Post 5 of 244
to all of you
thank you for your support
here the last news.
China ambassy said they will not be involved in this case and they are not the right authorities to call, with a sorry we can't help you
now albaba with a nice reply:
and nothing about about the certificate and credits check to become GOLD as they argue to explain in their page to deal with confidence with a gold supplier
Never had an answeer
few days after I receive from one user on alibaba he was also scammed and after some reasearh this is what he got as answeer
As we were informed in our Lithuanian police experience of the
>> reference behind the help to the Chinese police such: In 99 % of cases the
>> Chinese police sends papers with refusal to spend investigation because of
>> " absence of structure of a crime ".
>> It is necessary to think up a way to force local Chinese police to
>> investigate these crimes.
I even proposed to certain company to deal with
1- credit cards
2- escrow.com
3- paypal.com
4- moneybookers
5- COD
but some answeer we had problem with credit cards and bla bla bla .
many scammers up there
it look I have to put a final point on this and said to myself I will never again deal with TT or western because really not Secure at all.
also since China authorities don't want to hand up their little thumbs, then no help there
also this famous EMS service, check their page, where I can find phone, or email address, most of their page not even lin , when you click you go nowhere, I found a form and took the time to fill it up, and I clicked submit, at my surprise (but should I be amazed of that, because it is China) the button not work
amazing this country , and how we what we said free world give them all our tecnology and labour to be scammed as it.
Frankly I prefer to live in My home sweet home and said to myself how lucky I am.
Have a nice day
Franca
so in short dear international buyers, China like your money (who not)
thank you for your support
here the last news.
China ambassy said they will not be involved in this case and they are not the right authorities to call, with a sorry we can't help you
now albaba with a nice reply:
Dear Ms. Franca DiGiacomo,
Thanks for your email.
It is disappointing to learn of your recent experience.
Alibaba provides an electronic web-based platform for exchanging information between buyers and suppliers of products and services. Alibaba represents neither the seller nor buyer. As a result, Alibaba does not control and is not liable for the quality, safety, lawfulness or availability of products and/or services offered for sale on the Alibaba website, or the ability of the suppliers to complete a sale, or the ability of buyers to complete a purchase.
When you believe that you have received non-conforming goods from a supplier listed on our web site, it is generally not possible for us to verify that the supplier has engaged in fraud (i.e., that the supplier accepted the order but did not intend to sell conforming goods). In such cases, we encourage you and supplier to resolve your dispute through good faith mediation. If necessary, you can choose to bring a lawsuit against the supplier. If you are able to prove in court that the supplier engaged in fraud, we will suspend or terminate the supplier's account.
If you have any further questions, please visit our Help Center at http://www.alibaba.com/trade/help/helpcenter or contact us at anytime.
Sincerely,
Alibaba.com Service Team
Email: alibaba@alibaba-inc.com
and nothing about about the certificate and credits check to become GOLD as they argue to explain in their page to deal with confidence with a gold supplier
Never had an answeer
few days after I receive from one user on alibaba he was also scammed and after some reasearh this is what he got as answeer
As we were informed in our Lithuanian police experience of the
>> reference behind the help to the Chinese police such: In 99 % of cases the
>> Chinese police sends papers with refusal to spend investigation because of
>> " absence of structure of a crime ".
>> It is necessary to think up a way to force local Chinese police to
>> investigate these crimes.
I even proposed to certain company to deal with
1- credit cards
2- escrow.com
3- paypal.com
4- moneybookers
5- COD
but some answeer we had problem with credit cards and bla bla bla .
many scammers up there
it look I have to put a final point on this and said to myself I will never again deal with TT or western because really not Secure at all.
also since China authorities don't want to hand up their little thumbs, then no help there
also this famous EMS service, check their page, where I can find phone, or email address, most of their page not even lin , when you click you go nowhere, I found a form and took the time to fill it up, and I clicked submit, at my surprise (but should I be amazed of that, because it is China) the button not work
amazing this country , and how we what we said free world give them all our tecnology and labour to be scammed as it.
Frankly I prefer to live in My home sweet home and said to myself how lucky I am.
Have a nice day
Franca
so in short dear international buyers, China like your money (who not)
11 Apr 2008 06:59
Post 6 of 244
Quoting from [Franca]:
so in short dear international buyers, China like your money (who not)
Franca,
You have a very true but cynical reply.
It is true that there're lots of scammers on this website, but not all Chinese suppliers are bad.
If you have learned the skills on how to spot the good or bad suppliers, you will find how amazing to make money by selling Chinese products.
Sometimes, finding a professional sourcing agent in China will help you a lot.
16 Apr 2008 10:05
Post 7 of 244
Quoting from [cbeebies]:
I want to do a poll, but there is no voting system here.
Most Chinese suppliers are honest, or did you get swindled by them?
Tell us your experience. Sharing is good, right?
So far I have placed two orders with suppliers listed on Alibaba, got swindled by one and got excellent products from the other..so 50% is my answer!
17 Apr 2008 09:45
Post 8 of 244
Quoting from [asldude]:THIS MESSAGE IS FOR EVERY ONE !! HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF E-GLOBALTRADE.COM??? AND IF SO ARE THEY LEGIT??
yeah I had bad experince with chinese suppilers. I lost $600 US from http://www.wangcai898.com/. I talked with her thru Msn and paid thru WU after that. I never receive or heard from h
18 May 2008 13:11
Post 9 of 244
Quoting from [phbhakta]:
Replying to [worldsguitar]:
I also inquired about them earlier, and considered ordering from them, but not now. Sorry for your loss, and thanks for reporting them. How are you tracing them and reporting them to which police, USA or CHINESE police?
23 May 2008 11:00
Post 10 of 244
Quoting from [cbeebies]:
Replying to [andy111]:
Sorry to hear your case.
You should report this scammer to alibaba service team.
To get your money back, please report your case to China embassy in your country, or contact Putian local Industrial & Commercial Bureau at 0594-2692463 Email: pt315@tom.com. Their website is http://www.pt.fjaic.gov.cn/ (if you can read Chinese).
Hope it helps.
23 May 2008 11:00
Post 11 of 244
Quoting from [cbeebies]:
Replying to [andy111]:
Sorry to hear your case.
You should report this scammer to alibaba service team.
To get your money back, please report your case to China embassy in your country, or contact Putian local Industrial & Commercial Bureau at 0594-2692463 Email: pt315@tom.com. Their website is http://www.pt.fjaic.gov.cn/ (if you can read Chinese).
Hope it helps.
23 May 2008 11:02