I want to do a poll, but there is no voting system here. So, I have to ask and hope you guys can reply.

Most Chinese suppliers are honest, or did you get swindled by them?

Tell us your experience. Sharing is good, right?

Replying to [cbeebies]:

Nobody answered yet.

All Chinese suppliers are honest?

Replying to [cbeebies]:i was swindled twice from someone in my rookie days. the first was not for much..maybe 300 dollars or so for a sample order of something i do not remember and she vanished after i paid..i forget her name and the second was for alot..over 5000 USD....i remember his name as being johnny chen and he sold lacoste shirts...the first few orders came good but the first time i ordered big he took money and ran...this happened over a year ago and i still see he is selling and he has the nerve to contact me and try and get me to order more from him...lol then nerve...i sent it via western union..silly me..and did not recieve anything. Anyway, his msn messenger is the same as his email address which is chenfanone@hotmail.com in the case anybody wants to help me get my moeny back. My anme is valerie from usa and he know me well. He shorted me over 500 pieces of von dutch clothing...Only other problem i have is when things get locked in customs...which it has happened more then once comming from china, the people i work with offer very little help clearing customs and also did not offer refund and shipping was VERY expensive for me just to have items siezed by customs.

Replying to [just_me]:

Hi there,

Thanks for sharing your story. If you can give me the swindler's website or phone No. I may be able to help you call the guy and ask money back.

yep i got jacked from a chinese supplier said he will give me the money back but didnt hear from him again !

Thank you cbeebies,

people like you makes the trading safer. Let me share my part to help someone here in my homeland.

Thomas a swiss national placed order for 10 sets of Sony PSP at a low price of US$2600.00 ($260 a piece) from a firm who advertised in Alibaba Website. This was in January 2006, and the guy named Mr. Choo, delivered 5 sets on the first deal, and said they ran out of stocks and promised to back order and deliver the other 5 within next 3 weeks.

Thomas was happy with the first delivery, and he ordered another 10 sets, paid upfront US$2700 by telegraph transfer. After 4 weeks the goods never arrived and another person by the name of Roger Lee took over the communications and told Thomas that the firm declared bankrupt.

I did a committment to help Thomas as he contacted me over the chat room, and I did. Good that Thomas sent telegraph transfer with the records of the beneficiary and the firm's name in the wire form. Thomas sent all the evidences to me, I went to the Singapore Registrar of Businesses and did a search and found the company still active and has changed name. I went to the address of the business and found the shop closed, while the neighbours are opened.

The latest part is: I made a police report and sent it to Thomas along with the report from the Business Register. Thomas will be sending a letter of warning, pleading to the culprit to refund the money within a deadline of 2 weeks, if not we (me representing Thomas) will take them to the Subordinate Court for legal action.

Replying to [Street Smart]:


StreetSmart, thank God people in Alibaba have you there in Singapore (although I think cases like this would be very rare in Singapore really).
PErsonally I think the case you mentioned is not really an absolute fraud case (but hey I'm not an expert in law field, so I could be wrong).
I'm just curious, will this case fall into criminal charge or civil lawsuit (according to Singapore law)?

Replying to [trado]:Yes trado, nice to see you back.

This case is considered as a Breach of Agreement. An agreement or contract can be formal or informal, like a sales agreement, with a quotation and an order given within their stipulated terms. The seller fails to deliver the goods and did not keep up to his promise to refund the money... which is a criminal act.

Replying to [honest businessman]:To be honest with you, this company is very shifty and full of opaque or blackholes, which manifest either a counterfeit manufacturer or a scammer.

1. The registered name for the Website: XIN NET TECH CORP.
IP address: 63 223 65 162.
2. Technical contact
Wang huiying
putian sity, Beijing CN
phone: 2930101
fax: 294446

Web registrant name: Wei Changhe, xueyuanlu
ph: 86 0596 293 010 1888
fx: 86 0596 294 444 6668

Website company name: XIAMEN BIYATE EXPORT CO.
There are too many discrapancies, and although it is GOLD MEMBER, there is strong indication of fraudulant activity. Ask for your money back and cancell the order.

Counterfeit sports shoes and products are confiscated in China, and the authorities are stepping up on this in the light of their agreement with WTO.

Replying to [Street Smart]:

Hi Street Smart,

Thank you for sharing us your story and experience. You are brave and really street smart!

I admire people who takes legal actions to protect their benefits when necessary, even if for small amount. Bravo!

Replying to [cbeebies]:If those scammers think that nobody's going after them and they can get away with the crime, there will be more people joining them in the ranks.

The only way to get rid of dirty business is to prosecute them, and bring them to justice... to make sure that they pay for their crimes. Good will always triumph over evil, and evil doers shall not prosper.