Extract from TM chat with Nigerian scammer who is an Alibaba mobile phone "supplier" (this bit is after we settled price for scammer to send a boat load of 1/2 price Samsung Refrigerators from his Nigerian factory to Australia). See next post for contact details of this now confused worm.

Tony Johnson: our company policy is L/C ... we must be safe
williamsleophonesltd: okay

williamsleophonesltd: are you afraid of sending money through western union?

Tony Johnson: yes

williamsleophonesltd: your money is safe

Tony Johnson: we don't know you

williamsleophonesltd: you don,t have to be afriad

williamsleophonesltd: we are a very trust and legitimate company

Tony Johnson: are you a good Christian?

Tony Johnson: say a prayer to God please

williamsleophonesltd: god will make this bussiness done in jesus name

Tony Johnson: which religion?

williamsleophonesltd: god we thank you for letting us to be alife today in jesus name

williamsleophonesltd: christain

williamsleophonesltd: can you tell me wht the bible say in john 3.16

Tony Johnson: my religion does not teach "Old Testament"

williamsleophonesltd: but i am very good in prayer

Tony Johnson: please say a very good BIG BIG prayer for us to do good business

williamsleophonesltd: i went to synagogue church all nation

williamsleophonesltd: of all nation

Tony Johnson: please say a very good BIG BIG synagogue prayer for us to do good business

williamsleophonesltd: The man in the synagogue pray your son

williamsleophonesltd: Let him achieve all is bussiness

williamsleophonesltd: you have respond with amen

williamsleophonesltd: ?

williamsleophonesltd: so May your god grant you all your wish

williamsleophonesltd: May you make safelly bussiness in your Life

Tony Johnson: need BIG BIG prayer to make good business

williamsleophonesltd: wait sorry this time for bussiness okay

Tony Johnson: little prayer is for little business ... we are doing BIG business ... must have BIG prayer

williamsleophonesltd: you have not conclude with us okay

williamsleophonesltd: am right now in the office for bussiness

williamsleophonesltd: if you really need big prayer i can let you meet my pastor

Tony Johnson: that would be nice

williamsleophonesltd: pastor TB joshua synagogue

williamsleophonesltd: that is when i have trust in you and when you make a very cool bussiness with us

williamsleophonesltd: so are you ready to buy the goods?

Tony Johnson: we are very religious .. we cannot do business unless we hear BIG BIG prayer ... company policy

Tony Johnson: our company book says ... "must get 100 word prayer before paying more than $10,000"

Tony Johnson: it is rule number 1 in company book

williamsleophonesltd: so wht did you want me to do about that

Tony Johnson: must obey company rule

williamsleophonesltd: okay

Tony Johnson: I am company buyer ... must show boss the prayer before he okays the money ... he signs for the money ... he is very religious

williamsleophonesltd: so we can deal with that

williamsleophonesltd: you can write the prayer and show your boss

Tony Johnson: oh no, I cannot do that, it is not honest

williamsleophonesltd: may your god grant boss all your wish to send money

Tony Johnson: oh no, we must say please to God. We must beg God. We must use big "G" for God

williamsleophonesltd: please God beg God bussiness in jesus name

Tony Johnson: oh no, God will not be happy with us, must use big "J" for Jesus

[And so, the prayers went on, and on. At the end poor ol Nigerian "broke"]

williamsleophonesltd: leave me alone

Replying to [pruple]:


Well the names of people I have mentioned are active members on this forum. So just give a shout to them am sure anyone of them will help. Also feel free to add me .

Replying to [vicegerent]:
Maybe people can trust the active members, but why people should trust you?

Aping, Vicegerent neither offered any service nor implied that he wanted anybody to trust him about anything.


From what I can make out, he is just trying to be friendly ... which gives you no right to be a cynical ***edited***.


Aping, when will you ever learn "Take very careful aim before you pull the trigger".

check this out, I was bored!

williamsleophonesltd: hello
williamsleophonesltd: how are you doing sir ?
Wolfgang Lederer: hello, I am fine thx, and you?
williamsleophonesltd: fine
williamsleophonesltd: so what can we do for you?
williamsleophonesltd: we are mobile phones company
Wolfgang Lederer: i need some phones
Wolfgang Lederer: Nokia 8800, N80, N90, N92
williamsleophonesltd: whcih model ?
williamsleophonesltd: we sell it at a affordable price
Wolfgang Lederer: how much
williamsleophonesltd: NOKIA8800.....$140
williamsleophonesltd: NOKIAN80........$160
williamsleophonesltd: NOKIAN90$180
williamsleophonesltd: NOKIAN92........$200
williamsleophonesltd: how many of this phones did you need?
Wolfgang Lederer: i would need at least about 50pcs of each
williamsleophonesltd: that good
Wolfgang Lederer: you have good prices, how do you do that
williamsleophonesltd: we are a wholesaler
Wolfgang Lederer: i see
williamsleophonesltd: we sell in a very affordable price
williamsleophonesltd: we do ship via fedex shipping company
Wolfgang Lederer: what payment options can you offer?
williamsleophonesltd: WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER
Wolfgang Lederer: where is your company located?
williamsleophonesltd: a fast delievery payment
williamsleophonesltd: we are located in UK
williamsleophonesltd: but we have branches in the world
Wolfgang Lederer: where?
williamsleophonesltd: and also africa / asia
Wolfgang Lederer: where in africa?
williamsleophonesltd: GHANA/SOUTHAFRICA/SENEGAL/TOGO/NIGERIA
Wolfgang Lederer: South Africa is perfect. I am from South Africa. Where is it exactly?
williamsleophonesltd: am the sales manager of this company so we have the list of the branch of our company
williamsleophonesltd: i don,t know exactly it is lacated
williamsleophonesltd: but have the list of the company
williamsleophonesltd: you can order from our company right here in afica
williamsleophonesltd: NIGERIA
Wolfgang Lederer: no problem, main thing is you have an office in africa. Nigeria is also good, my forwarder can pick it up directly at your office
Wolfgang Lederer: what do you think when will they be ready?
Wolfgang Lederer: are you there?
williamsleophonesltd: you don,t have to worry about that we do ship via fedex shipping company without no charges for that so we can kindly ship the phones to your address in 48hrs time after packaging
williamsleophonesltd: and also after we confirm your payment
williamsleophonesltd: the transaction will goes well
Wolfgang Lederer: if so, what payment options do you offer beside Western Union? Because WU is not safe
williamsleophonesltd: We have been in to that payment method for so long and we have no problem with our customer and also w assure you in many way that you will enjoy our severice
williamsleophonesltd: we can even make a deal with you about the payment
williamsleophonesltd: you can deposit for the goods and after recieving the phones you balance our payment
Wolfgang Lederer: how much deposit?
williamsleophonesltd: to be sure you can make %20 deposit
Wolfgang Lederer: thats fine
williamsleophonesltd: you will surelly enjoy our service
Wolfgang Lederer: but I would prefer that my forwarder will pick it up to pay cash

Wolfgang Lederer: where is your storage? Lagos, Kaduna, Ibadan?
williamsleophonesltd: i explain to you that you don,t have to worry we have a pshippiugncompany for that
williamsleophonesltd: that have to deliever this phones to you
Wolfgang Lederer: let me calculate quickly
williamsleophonesltd: okay
williamsleophonesltd: can i have your mobile phones number
williamsleophonesltd: ?
Wolfgang Lederer: total amount would be 34000USD
Wolfgang Lederer: i give it to you later with all the details
williamsleophonesltd: okay
williamsleophonesltd: so the 20% will be
williamsleophonesltd: ?
Wolfgang Lederer: 20% are 6800USD
williamsleophonesltd: so are you ready to make the %20 payment so that the transaction can move on
Wolfgang Lederer: yes, i would be, but i saw right now on WU website that south africa is not in the list
Wolfgang Lederer: http://www.westernunion.com/info/selectCountry.asp

Wolfgang Lederer: there is no western union in SA
williamsleophonesltd: wait pls
Wolfgang Lederer: olk
Wolfgang Lederer: ok
Wolfgang Lederer: did you find anything out?
williamsleophonesltd: no
williamsleophonesltd: wait a seconds pls
Wolfgang Lederer: ok
williamsleophonesltd: hello
williamsleophonesltd: am back
Wolfgang Lederer: ok
williamsleophonesltd: i just talk with my manager right now
Wolfgang Lederer: what did he say
williamsleophonesltd: he said you should go to any WESTERN UNION OFFICE IN S/A that you can send the money there
Wolfgang Lederer: of course, but there is no Western Union office in SA
williamsleophonesltd: wiat let me talk with him
Wolfgang Lederer: ok
Wolfgang Lederer: we must solve this problem quickly, i need the phones asap.
Wolfgang Lederer: i also can transfer the money to any of your accounts
williamsleophonesltd: am back
Wolfgang Lederer: ok
Wolfgang Lederer: how can we do now?
williamsleophonesltd: he said he can change the policy of the company
Wolfgang Lederer: ok
Wolfgang Lederer: what does that exactly mean to me?
williamsleophonesltd: he let me know that we have been into this terms of payment for a long years
Wolfgang Lederer: yes
williamsleophonesltd: and also he gave you a grauntee to send the money via MONEYGRAMM INTERNATIONAL TANSFER
williamsleophonesltd: TRANSFER

Replying to [vicegerent]:
hi thanks for all your help i will add you as it nice to chat to some who can tell us ppl who dont know how this all work any help is good for every one thanks again to all

Replying to [pruple]:

If there's not a lot of money at stake I could ask one of my Chinese friends to phone your potential supply company to do a cursory check. Just TM me.

Or, if the value exceeds say $1,500 you could pay a Chinese mainland person about $100 to do a really proper check.

Replying to [Aussie]:
how is that someone can steal a id of a gold member and use another gold members website to try and rip people off , i was sent a email buy Cecile Penn under a gold members id to sell me dress and when he gave me his so called website i ask him why he had someoneles website he just said it was his so i then ask why his add is diffrent he told me he used his friend id to send me email i thourt that was very funny now i have talked to this comany who id he used to send me a eamil and thay dont even know him so he is out ripp someone off it just so happens i been talking with other comany with the same website to buy from that is the only way i new he was not with this dress company so he fell in big time his name is Cecile Penn cecile_1881@hotmail.com or my E-MAIL :cecile_1881@yahoo.com.cn
so that his info so dont be suxed in by him hes a con man but he useing good comanys to do it i have no idea how he would steal some id but he has just thour i would tell you all that we all need to know when some one trys to con us so we dont lose any money