Dear All,

how many of you were scrap "victims" varifyng huge stocks from Nigeria??? Any comments?

Thanks

Replying To [Just]:

Dear Just, I am sorry for the trouble and lost you have been trough and I don't hope that you will find any more "victim" of these kind of scam, or any other here, that will be to sad,

But a lot of scam comes out from Nigeria and some of them are regarding scrap metal, one of the most used is the "Nigerian used rail scam"

I have seen about 10 different version of this scam in the past 2-3 years, I think the latest one was about 4-5 months ago,

I sorry that I can’t offer you much help, just a comment,

Replying to [Just]:

I know its too late to offer this but. I do always involve my countries Foreign Trade Representatives to verify the legitimacy of the Selling Company. More than once they have helped me avoid costly mistakes by verifying that the company wanting to Export Rails and or HMS 1&2 is NON-EXISTENT. When working with these types of unbelievable prices from supposed sellers, confront them by telling them you will have your countries Trade Rep Involved. If they are for real there is no problem but I have yet to find one that is real as they all run away and stop responding to my e-mails to continue the purchase. I hope this helps.

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Dear All,


how many of you were scrap "victims" varifyng huge stocks from Nigeria??? Any comments?


Thanks

There are many scammers on the prowl.It is for us to apply due diligence.

Sixer

Replying to [Just]:

I know a number of friends who have lost money to African scammers. A typical ad will be like


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I am Mr Eric Khumalo, A Special Structural Engineering Auditor to the South African railway Corporation [SARC] and the Ministry Of Transport Federal Republic Of South Africa, I have the mandate of writing this offer as a direct Seller to seek your interests on behalf of our auctioneers, The Federal Ministry of Transport of South Africa, Who has authorized me to negotiate with a foreign company that can purchase the products as stated below under as spot lift contract term. PRODUCT : USED RAIL TRACKS SPECIFICATIONS : R50 & R 65 as conformed to the ISRI CODES ORIGIN : SOUTH AFRICA MANUFACTURERS : RUSSIA AND UKRAINE PACKAGING : Loose and Cut to sizes of 1.5inches before containerizing and Loading. QUANTITY : 400, 000 MT (Four Hundred Thousand Metric Tons) SHIPMENT : 30,000. (Thirty Thousand) Metric Tons per Month. CONTRACT PERIOD : 12 Months. PRICE : USD$75 per Metric Ton. DELIVERY : FOB. INSPECTION : Quality, Quantity, Weight & Photo by Buyer at buyers cost at port of loading for invoicing Quantity assay issued by SSTF in clear, clean faxed or e-mailed version, showing the quantity of the goods loaded on board vessel. Hard copies will follow with-in seven (7) banking days. Chemical Composition: International Standards as follows: R50 - 51.67 kg/m GOST 7173-75 C : 0.67 -- 0.8% Mn : 0.75 -- 1.05% Si : 0.13 -- 0.28% P : max. 0.035% S : max. 0.045% Ar : max. 0.15% R65 - 64.72 kg/m GOST 8165-75 C: 0.6 -- 0.082% n: 0.75 -- 1.05% Si: 0.13 - 0.28% P: max. 0.035% S: max. 0.045% Ar: max. 0.15 The scrap rail consists out of the used and unused rails from the South African Railway Corporation. [SARC] All materials are totally free from any types of radiation; bombs, arms and ammunition, and explosive in any form either used or otherwise. Please confirm if you are willing to close down the contract as to enable us schedule and arrange for your urgent trip to South Africa for the inspections the materials and signing of the contract with the Ministry of Transport. Finally, upon your acceptance to this offer, be guided that, the immediately after signing the contract with the ministry, you will be automatically assumed to begin cutting of the materials to the international scrap standardized approved sizes for immediate free exportations. Please revert via: Email: selleric01@yahoo.com for faster attention. Thanks and regards, Mr Eric Khumalo.
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Also beware of people from Nigeria, Ghana, Ivorycoast . Some tips to avoid scammers

1) Do not pay in advance before you see the supply
2) Have a 3rd party like sgs to verify the supplier
3) Never pay by western union or any wire transfer
4) Do not respond if any one offers scrap metal for 100$ / ton when the actual rate is 210$/ton
5) Have a bank or 3rd party mediate the deal

We have got cases where the African scammers have even produced forged BL's and got money from the buyers. Its a best practise always to have their background checked. We at recycleinme.com are not featuring any suppliers from Nigeria now. Also we have a list of emails of scammers and the scam proposals which help us to eliminate the scams to some extent..

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Replying to [Just]:


I know a number of friends who have lost money to African scammers. A typical ad will be like



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I am Mr Eric Khumalo, A Special Structural Engineering Auditor to the South African railway Corporation [SARC] and the Ministry Of Transport Federal Republic Of South Africa, I have the mandate of writing this offer as a direct Seller to seek your interests on behalf of our auctioneers, The Federal Ministry of Transport of South Africa, Who has authorized me to negotiate with a foreign company that can purchase the products as stated below under as spot lift contract term. PRODUCT : USED RAIL TRACKS SPECIFICATIONS : R50 & R 65 as conformed to the ISRI CODES ORIGIN : SOUTH AFRICA MANUFACTURERS : RUSSIA AND UKRAINE PACKAGING : Loose and Cut to sizes of 1.5inches before containerizing and Loading. QUANTITY : 400, 000 MT (Four Hundred Thousand Metric Tons) SHIPMENT : 30,000. (Thirty Thousand) Metric Tons per Month. CONTRACT PERIOD : 12 Months. PRICE : USD$75 per Metric Ton. DELIVERY : FOB. INSPECTION : Quality, Quantity, Weight & Photo by Buyer at buyers cost at port of loading for invoicing Quantity assay issued by SSTF in clear, clean faxed or e-mailed version, showing the quantity of the goods loaded on board vessel. Hard copies will follow with-in seven (7) banking days. Chemical Composition: International Standards as follows: R50 - 51.67 kg/m GOST 7173-75 C : 0.67 -- 0.8% Mn : 0.75 -- 1.05% Si : 0.13 -- 0.28% P : max. 0.035% S : max. 0.045% Ar : max. 0.15% R65 - 64.72 kg/m GOST 8165-75 C: 0.6 -- 0.082% n: 0.75 -- 1.05% Si: 0.13 - 0.28% P: max. 0.035% S: max. 0.045% Ar: max. 0.15 The scrap rail consists out of the used and unused rails from the South African Railway Corporation. [SARC] All materials are totally free from any types of radiation; bombs, arms and ammunition, and explosive in any form either used or otherwise. Please confirm if you are willing to close down the contract as to enable us schedule and arrange for your urgent trip to South Africa for the inspections the materials and signing of the contract with the Ministry of Transport. Finally, upon your acceptance to this offer, be guided that, the immediately after signing the contract with the ministry, you will be automatically assumed to begin cutting of the materials to the international scrap standardized approved sizes for immediate free exportations. Please revert via: Email: selleric01@yahoo.com for faster attention. Thanks and regards, Mr Eric Khumalo.

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Also beware of people from Nigeria, Ghana, Ivorycoast . Some tips to avoid scammers


1) Do not pay in advance before you see the supply

2) Have a 3rd party like sgs to verify the supplier

3) Never pay by western union or any wire transfer

4) Do not respond if any one offers scrap metal for 100$ / ton when the actual rate is 210$/ton

5) Have a bank or 3rd party mediate the deal


We have got cases where the African scammers have even produced forged BL's and got money from the buyers. Its a best practise always to have their background checked. We at recycleinme.com are not featuring any suppliers from Nigeria now. Also we have a list of emails of scammers and the scam proposals which help us to eliminate the scams to some extent..

Dear Guna,

It is good typical example.

Sixer

Replying to [sixer]: Thank you Sixer and it is the greed of the buyers by which they loose the money. The cheaters offer scrap at less than 50% of the market rates and buyers fall for that eventually losing the money..

I have started a blog on this and will post the scam offers as and when we receive them at our portal..

You can visit it at http://killscam.blogspot.com/

Quoting from [Guna]:


Replying to [sixer]: Thank you Sixer and it is the greed of the buyers by which they loose the money. The cheaters offer scrap at less than 50% of the market rates and buyers fall for that eventually losing the money..


I have started a blog on this and will post the scam offers as and when we receive them at our portal..


You can visit it at http://killscam.blogspot.com/

Dear Guna,

Scrap at 50% of market rate should be good reason to stay away from them.

Sixer

Replying to [Just]:

Hi Just,

I just got screwed from Guinea ( Conarkry ) . For auto battery scrap . I sent the 30 % down payment and now he is asking more , saying no money to pay the workers . For all out there beware . I cannot believe I did this .

Rgds,
Jeff

Replying to [Just]: Am sorry to hear about this as i live in Nigeria and i have always offer my services to verify this scammers. I have done some exporting in scrap metals because we have a lot of it but anyone that offers scrap rail from Nigeria is a scamer we just dont have it in that quantity to sell. And it is government property so pls do not fall for this also no ship metal too.

Replying to [Just]:

Scraps in scam are so common and people get cheated far too often, it is not anymore reputed to be a scrap trader.