How can I Recover Deposit Money ?

Replying to [sammy_sung]:Hi! I am Adam Sands from Hungary, The European Union. Me and some of my childhood scoolmates founded an international import company, namely Globex Inc. Hungary.
About 7 months ago we ordered mobiles phone from a Gold & Trusted member from Alibaba. The company was in Putian city, in Fujian dt. We paid 15,780 usd via T/T bank transfer. Of course we didnt received anything still nowdays, and the cheaters are disappeared. After 4 monts investigation we have informations about that guys. All of the scams from the Fujian dt. are belong to 3-4 big scammers. They earn a lot of money by steal money from people. As I said, we sent out 15,780 usd, what means 3,156,000 hungarian forints. IT'S TOO MUCH MONEY TO LOOSE. Then, we decided to get back our money from these as*holes. We have all requied informations (names, addresses, banks accounts, tel.#s, IPs, and also some pics), we organised contacts, guides, translators. Nowdays we discuss about accommodation.

So, if you want to join to our 32 days trip send us an e-mail, and we can send you the details.
If you are cheated as we, and you want to get back your money, you can also send an e-mail, maybe we can help, and maybe we can get your money back.

Thanks
ps. i have a topic, you can have a check

Replying to [sammy_sung]:Dear sir,sorry to hear that you surrfer this matter.In my peraonal idea,it is hard for you to get your money back.Because money is at another person's pocket,how can he give the money to you from his pocket.

Replying to [sammy_sung]: Sounds like a lot of work for little return. You are in my opinion wasting your enegry and time chasing down ghosts.

Replying to [sammy_sung]:As I always say in my every forum that china sell the worst quality product , they will send a good quality sample but they cannot send good quality of goods So be carefull All buyer and importers of diiferent countries. As far as Payment matter Just call the china embassy people in your country or mail them.Mail them all correspondence betwwen china seller and you Mail them china seller Account number and full address also .They will contact their country govt official and try to get your payment back but keep in mind this is long process and one thing more they black list the manufacture also which take your payment and does not send good to you

Replying to [sammy_sung]:I am the Director of Sales for the San Diego Credit Association.We are a collections agency in San Diego California for 111 years.We do collect money for Chinese Companys who do business with American companys.I would be happy to take your account.

Replying to [sammy_sung]:Yes your money is long gone, this should be a lesson to you never deal with chinese again, believe me they will get what they deserve, this whole website should be banned, they are more scammer on this website than any other website in the world.

Replying to [sammy_sung]: The quick answer is you cannot recover the money. It is not because of legality of the contract, but how the Chinese system works.

Many factories are in close tie with the China goverment officials and in China both making law and enforcing law are in the hand of government officials. Unlike the U.S. in which the Court systme is separate and distinct from the legislatives.

So even if you sue in China, the case will never be heard. Because the people in charge of the case is the same group of people that are tied to these factories.

Of course if you have signed contract with the factory, by law, the company is bounded to return your deposit as per the contract terms dictates. However, that is true only if your case will be heard from a Court of law. If your case is never heard in front of a judge, then how can the law matters.

Having said that, China government is usually very responsive to complaints from foreigners. Ah if you are not a citizen of the Great China, i.e. Taiwan, China, Hong Kong, Macau, then you are in a much better position. The fact that you are a United States citizen gives you supreme power. China is very response to pressure from the U.S.

File a complain to the U.S. Embassy in China and the China Embassy in your country and may be you will get your deposit back and more so that it will not rise up to an international matter. Ah probably you will get the money in 2-3 weeks at most.

If you haven't done it already, I strongly recommend that you do.

But this all holds if and only if the company you buy from is a registered company in mainland china which has a fixed physical address. If it's a ghetto run by scammers and the company don't even exist then no one can help you. They might already be running another joint using a different company name already.

Replying to [sammy_sung]:Can any body tell me,what is recourse to get deposit money back? This is usual practice of chinese manufacturers for delay.Chinese authorities should take appropriate action against erring co.s

Dear friend,

Sorry for you ! I myself got same trouble with you, I was cheated twice, one from Bangladesh supplier (shipped short quantity and bad quality) and one from Russia supplier (deposited but no shipment !).

Who can help me to recover my loss and fund ???
tran_badluck@yahoo.com

Replying to [sammy_sung]:

Although I can't assist you to recover the deposit but I have some points to mention.

Alibaba as an owner of this site to match buyers and suppliers should list out who these default suppliers are to prevent these black sheep from damaging the serious suppliers.

Buyers who encounters default by these suppliers should immediately report such cases and name updated to Alibaba management. This will allow any buyers to check which are the black sheep and banned before starting to negotiate for any business deal.

The effects, I am sure:-

- will filter out the conned men
- improve the quality and purpose of Alibaba
- improve the image of the Chinese traders

Prompt action should be taken fast to ban all these traders.

concerned trader