Replying to [detronic]:
Hi dear
everybody wanted to lower the original commercial invoice so avoid to pay tremendous duties/taxes.

Maybe he wanted to help but no......

Also will depend of the relationship with TNT and the customs government. Customs can listen TNT clearance guys because they have what happen worldwide with real values-

Replying to [detronic]:

To avoid this kind of problems I instruct the seller to add a packinglist to the goods and send the invoice separately. The packing list has no value of the goods, so an issue with the wrong prices is not possible.

The customs office can inspect the content and compare it with the packinglist. They ask me for the invoice and I send it to them. I get the goods delivered and pay the taxes.

The customs office may not always open the delivery, but you always pay the taxes. When you sell the goods you pay tax over the total price you sell it for. If you had to pay taxes at the time of importing the goods, you can deduct that amount of taxes. Did you not pay any taxes at the customs, then there is nothing to deduct on the total tax amount to be paid.

In the EU you always pay the taxes.

Replying to [detronic]:

Replying to [detronic]:well im sure you can make payment via a friend or associate and make a small payment from your own account to show that youve paid a small amount...

Quoting from [detronic]:


Replying to [general]:Thank you mon General.


It is true, there is no way to cheat the German customs and finacial office. They will see I have paid 4850 USD because they have an eye on your banking account and for this amount I have to pay my import tax.


As a seller giving a buyer such a hard time with the authorities is not right. But I have learned and next time I will hire SGS again even by this small amount of money.

what's an SGS?

Quoting from [detronic]:


After checking and checking all over again, I finaly ordered 100 two-way radios at PUXING INTERNATIONAL, Changxing Road, Torch Industrial Zone, Licheng District, Quanzhou City, Fujian Province. China.

After the company received my money they informed me that my goods are ready for shipment and asked me how. I have told them, that I would like to use my UPS account as I have done it in the past. Ok, I called UPS to collect the goods in China and Puxing called UPS for colletion.

Next day Puxing mailed me, that my account number is not valid and UPS will not pick up my goods. UPS Germany called UPS China again. Next day Puxing mailed me, that my long year account is still invalid. UPS Germany did not know what to say that that my account is good and valid.

So he wanted me to wire him an extra 3000 USD and he would take care of the shipment. I told him that I have an account with TNT as well and that I would like to call TNT Germany


Both, UPS and TNT charge only 1800 EUR for the shipment.


Then the sales person Kevin started to tell me that he needs to write the commercial invoice about the amount of 500 USD. I have paid 4850 USD. Here in Germany you can not such fraudulent things with the IRS, so I have told him to do as he hase written in the proforma invoice.

Finaly TNT picked up my goods and they arrived after two days. But the German customs was holding it, because he did not give any commercial invoice. All he said on the air way bill was that the commercial value is 100 USD.

The german customs did not believe him and asked him by fax to send the real invoice. He never ansered the caales and fax.


I had to go with the proforma invoice and bank slip to proved that I have ordered the goods at this company.


Still, I dont have my goods and I guess I have to wait a little longer, because now the customs is checking my shippment very carfull.

This is very silly and careless on the supplier's part. They should have done only what was instructed by the client. Though the intention may have been good the end result is disaterous for the buyer. They should at least bare some responsibility or at the very least try to assist with retifying the problem.

 

Quoting from [detronic]:


DEAR SIRS. MY NAME IS MAGDOLNA MAGYAR, I HAVE BIG SON, AND IT IS NOT FUN WE HAVE NOT FOOD FOR A WEEKEND. PLEASE IF POSSIBLE SEND US A LITTLE MONEY FAST AS AND FOR MY CREDITCARD: VISA    4261240041644913    02/10

SORRY AND THANKS.            MAGDOLNA MAGYAR

So hot argument in this topic.  In my experience, there are diifferent rules in different country so the most important thing is to communicate each other well before the business. Because complain does not work and will hurt both the buyer and seller. For your case, perhaps you woud never do business with your supplier again and the supplier lose the chance  of long-term business realationship. This is not buyer's want. For your part, you miss the time and profit.as well as your anger do harm to your health. Do remember to ask the seller to make everything done after your confirmation, avoiding unnecessary problems.