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Wrong commercial invoice on shippment, customs will hold the shipment
Post 1 of 29
After checking and checking all over again, I finaly ordered 100 two-way radios at PUXING INTERNATIONAL, Changxing Road, Torch Industrial Zone, Licheng District, Quanzhou City, Fujian Province. China.
After the company received my money they informed me that my goods are ready for shipment and asked me how. I have told them, that I would like to use my UPS account as I have done it in the past. Ok, I called UPS to collect the goods in China and Puxing called UPS for colletion.
Next day Puxing mailed me, that my **** is not valid and UPS will not pick up my goods. UPS Germany called UPS China again. Next day Puxing mailed me, that my long year account is still invalid. UPS Germany did not know what to say that that my account is good and valid.
So he wanted me to wire him an extra 3000 USD and he would take care of the shipment. I told him that I have an account with TNT as well and that I would like to call TNT Germany

Both, UPS and TNT charge only 1800 EUR for the shipment.

Then the sales person Kevin started to tell me that he needs to write the commercial invoice about the amount of 500 USD. I have paid 4850 USD. Here in Germany you can not such fraudulent things with the IRS, so I have told him to do as he hase written in the proforma invoice.
Finaly TNT picked up my goods and they arrived after two days. But the German customs was holding it, because he did not give any commercial invoice. All he said on the air way bill was that the commercial value is 100 USD.
The german customs did not believe him and asked him by fax to send the real invoice. He never ansered the caales and fax.

I had to go with the proforma invoice and bank slip to proved that I have ordered the goods at this company.

Still, I dont have my goods and I guess I have to wait a little longer, because now the customs is checking my shippment very carfull.[em6]
14 Jun 2006 06:22
Post 2 of 29
Replying to [detronic]:

Detronic, I sense something fishy here but hopefully it will turn out to be my over-suspicious instinct only.
Could it be that this guy send you the garbage/defected goods or could it be that this guy is trying to undervalue their invoice to serve their "Local purpose" in china?
Hopefully not.Hopefully it is all only a misunderstanding.Do keep us informed of the case, will you
15 Jun 2006 02:45
Post 3 of 29
Reasons to make under-value on invoice:


1) the buyer wants to avoid import taxes for smaller import goods;

2) the seller doesn't have direct export right;

3) the time is tight for both sides: the buyer needs the goods urgently, the seller wants to deliver quickly, if make an under-value invoice, the seller can avoid many export documents & procedures.


Your case should be #2.


Just for refer.[em1]
15 Jun 2006 07:03
Post 4 of 29
[em12]sorry, there are two #1

pls read as #1,#2 & #3.
15 Jun 2006 07:04
Post 5 of 29
Replying to [general and trado]: Here in Germany each month you have to give all information on bank transactions to the IRS, so they can check how much taxes you havt to pay.
The import tax is neutral and every penny I pay I can deduct from my monthly payment. The import tax on 4850 USD will be 16 %.
Now the seller gives me an under value invoice of only 100 USD. With that I will loose a lot of money on the Import taxes.
Anyway, the customs did not believe and my goods are still at customs for examination.
15 Jun 2006 20:54
Post 6 of 29
Replying to [detronic]: !!!!!!!
15 Jun 2006 23:50
Post 7 of 29
Replying to [CBS team]:f...head
16 Jun 2006 00:19
Post 8 of 29
Replying to [detronic]:Replying to [detronic]: 1. It is generally way make a low price invoice when transfer cargo by express, it is not only because supplier want save some money ,also they want get a quickly pass at custom, also there have some buyer would ask supplier do this for them save import tax indeed! what's wrong with the supplier ? they done a mistake by good intention ! 2. There must have some trouble on international business for the different culture ,rules and knowledge etc. there need more allowance and communicate each other to keep a long term business .it is discourteously to post the supplier here just by this mistake . 3. Most of chinese people and company are friendly and faithfulness , please don't judge everything by magnifying gl *, it is unfair !!!!
16 Jun 2006 00:44
Post 9 of 29
Replying to [CBS team]:Ja, Ja... Du mich auch
16 Jun 2006 00:46
Post 10 of 29
Replying to [CBS team]:

Calm down.

This case is:
The buyer required a real value to write on invoice.
Well, the seller wrote an undervalue for his own conveneince.

16 Jun 2006 01:09
Post 11 of 29
Replying to [general]:Thank you mon General.

It is true, there is no way to cheat the German customs and finacial office. They will see I have paid 4850 USD because they have an eye on your banking account and for this amount I have to pay my import tax.

As a seller giving a buyer such a hard time with the authorities is not right. But I have learned and next time I will hire SGS again even by this small amount of money.
16 Jun 2006 01:34
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